The worst of the worst
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The worst of the worst
I figured I would start this thread to hear a few yarns of the worst conditions that you have ever found yourself in while on Erie. Mine, I'm sure is fairly tame. I have a 16' alum deep V. with (at the time) a 40 and 9.9 kicker. It was dead calm in August so I put in at East street and headed for the mountain. When I arrived, I dropped my riggers and started a long slow troll. After about an hour or so, some chop started. I was by myself and started feeling a bit on edge since I was starting to get rocked a bit. I decided to bring up the riggers and head closer to shore in case things got nasty. By the time I got both riggers up and my gear stowed, I was on my knees unable to stand in 4' rollers. In a 16' alum boat 4 footers are big. By the time I was under power and behind the wheel, I was in 4 foot whitecaps with the occasional 5 or 6 footer tossed at me. It was a long ride to the dock with a lot of throttle action going up one wave and down the next with waves crashing over my bow. I got beat up bad that day and my beilge was working overtime. I still felt like Ii was on a boat 4 hours after pulling out, lying on my couch at home. One ironic thing was that noaa (that I always monitor) kept calling for 2 feet or less to "calm".
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RE: The worst of the worst
2010/05/20 23:06:13
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trolling at night off the point,dead calm. started to see a ripple crease the lake, still no wind. after 15 min 1-2 ft waves ,still no wind felt but coulds hear it above me. another 10 minutes 4 ft waves and we head in, smash our lower unit on a gravel bar off the point. boats done, throw out anchor and swim to the point. long walk in the dark until we found the trail out. a guy taking a late night drive picked us up in the park. had the boat towed the next day. that lake is not to be trusted. crazy stuff.
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RE: The worst of the worst
2010/05/21 00:26:11
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Went out of dunkirk with dad in the am 16 ft alumacraft with 25hp tiller. lake was dead calm, boat would plane and run about 25 with just he & I. Granpa comes along with my two little brothers, can't run on plane any more. Start fishing our way back (about 6 mile south of dunkirk harbor). Anyway lake went from dead calm to legit 5-6 in 10-15 minutes. Lightning was crashing everywhere as we rounded the lighthouse and got into the harbor. The other was just stupidity on my part. Was fishing a south wind for eyes about 5 years ago, out of walnut. I was out by my self and had had a decent morning running 2 rods. Needed one for my limit. Lake continues to pick up, I end up going down to 1 rod as it is getting too rough. By the time I caught my limit I had tied myself into my seat for fear of being bucked out of the boat. I laugh every time I see a south wind and guys go tearing out of the nut only to come back disgusted and mostly wet an hour or so later. Lightning scares me more on that lake than the waves. If you don't lose power and aren't stupid you can survive waves. Lightning sucks.
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RE: The worst of the worst
2010/05/21 07:32:58
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Funny how the bad stories start with I went out on Lake Erie in a 16' boat.
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RE: The worst of the worst
2010/05/21 09:27:52
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Lightning scares me more on that lake than the waves. If you don't lose power and aren't stupid you can survive waves. Lightning sucks. Years back we were off walnut in one or the other of the trenches with an incoming thunderstorm west of Ashtabula (we were aware it was coming and preparing to run back in). We started hearing crackling sound on the boat realized the antenna (aka lightning rod) was building a charge. We'll never know how close we were to a strike, but its still spooky to think about it. Lesson is that even a distant thunderstorm still presents risk...
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RE: The worst of the worst
2010/05/21 09:44:24
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I out ran a thunderstorm on the lake one day with my dad on the boat. Just as I got the boat on the trailer and pulled out it hit BIG TIME! Large hail and lake strikes! I could not even get out of the truck to tie the boat down. Nasty stuff. I never heard a "pan, pan, pan" on the raido. Luckly, my eye on the sky told me to get moving. I was 10 miles or so from the dock.
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RE: The worst of the worst
2010/05/21 11:18:45
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when i was a senior in highschool, in central western pa, i met a junior that went to seneca highschool up there. my brother-in-law coached football then. we dated and went to a couple concerts at the erie fieldhouse. i went to her prom up in peak-n-peak. this was the only time i ever wore a yellow tux but she was worth it. long distant relationsships never did work for me and we finally spit up. it broke my heart. she was the sweetest and most beautiful girl i ever dated. i still got scars besides this breakup and walleye fishing with dreamcatcher in his boat during 7' waves were the worst times for me up there in erie. i still wonder what she is doing now days. maybe if i had a bigger skiff!!!!!!!!!!!
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RE: The worst of the worst
2010/05/21 11:51:13
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ORIGINAL: kingnuke32 Funny how the bad stories start with I went out on Lake Erie in a 16' boat. Ya, I noticed that. I did get a wave over the bow of my 23 footer once, not that big of a deal with the self bailing hull but not fun either. Fishing in 5 to 7's is not my idea of fun. I think it was 2 years ago, we JUST out ran a thunder storm. Pulled into the channel at Walnut just as the high winds hit along with the lightning and a little hail. We just tied up at the courtesy dock and sprinted to the building. Pretty wild storm, but it was over in 5 minutes.
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RE: The worst of the worst
2010/05/21 13:00:34
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ORIGINAL: kingnuke32 Funny how the bad stories start with I went out on Lake Erie in a 16' boat. This one time....In my 22' Aluminum .....was out in 2's, then went to 4's in less than 15mins. Then by the time I called it's quit's it was 4's and 5's...by the time I was a mile from conny harbor, every wave a legitimate 6-8's..Was NW of conny and waves were coming NE...Not fun in ditch....Not fun at all.....slow ride in......Atleast I didn' get wet though and had cooler full of feesh.....Passengers kissed the dock when we got back....Waves don't start scaring me til they are over 5's anymore...Used to be a 3ft or less fisherman and 4's when I was itching to go, but I know certain person that likes to go out in anything....
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RE: The worst of the worst
2010/05/21 14:37:17
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We started hearing crackling sound on the boat realized the antenna (aka lightning rod) was building a charge. St. Elmo's fire.
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RE: The worst of the worst
2010/05/21 14:39:59
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Went out in a 16 foot tri hull. Wind kicked up, motor quit, waves separated the inner and outer hull and began to fill the boat between them. By the time we got the motor started and got back to the marina we had about 4 inches of freeboard between the gunwale and the water.
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RE: The worst of the worst
2010/05/21 18:45:48
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ORIGINAL: kingnuke32 Funny how the bad stories start with I went out on Lake Erie in a 16' boat. Well after all .... if thats all you got then thats all you got. I went out on Lake Erie in a 16' boat ( mine , thats all I got ) and was off the point perchin. Flat as a pancake in the morning. Weather called for 2 feet and less all day. They were wrong. after 2 hours the winds shifted and picked up real good. Picked up the lines and the anchor and headed in cause I didnt want to get swamped. Only took 10 minutes before they were 5 -6 footers and I took my time getting back ( bout 2 hours to go 2 1/2 miles). I made it but it was scary. You learn what to look for and when to call it quits when you have a small boat. But thats all I gots. Still boatin and still floatin.
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RE: The worst of the worst
2010/05/21 20:01:28
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It wasn't on the Big Pond but I had quite the scare on Chautauqua one day. Started out very early and wanted to troll the main basin for eyes. Put in at Pendergast and headed North with a nice light chop... As I got 4-5 miles up the Lake the North wind really kicked up so I turned around and had to ride 3-4 footers all the way back to the dock. My little boat is only 14' and has about 18" of side board above the water line with even less in the transom. When I would drop down into the trough between a couple 4 footers I would almost disappear.. I put on my life vest, had a tie down rope holding me to the seat and even went as far as to get my buoys out and usable so if the boat capsized I might have some idea where all my tackle was.... Watching the guys in the bigger boats hit into the waves head on was quite the site, every time they would hit a wave it looked like someone had thrown a couple 5 gallon buckets of water in their face.... DT I remember many many concerts at the field house. Well I remember going to the fieldhouse, the concerts ???
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RE: The worst of the worst
2010/05/21 22:13:05
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Got zapped on a graphite rod off of ashtabula one time when I was about 17. went to pick up my rod, got shocked, looked at my grandfather and all the hair on his head was standing straight up. So I told him, and he replied "so is yours, what do you say we get out of here". The bad mistake was that we tried to run in. Several times now it has been much safer for me to run deeper to avoid a storm that run to shore. Not that I reccommend it, but it is the better option at times, spooky though.
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RE: The worst of the worst
2010/05/21 22:16:20
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8 footers in a 14' shallow V. lol, what a ride. I think Worm Waster can tell you a story, lol.
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RE: The worst of the worst
2010/05/22 12:53:42
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Ill pi$$ people off, but some of the stories Ive read here were not caused by the weather, they were caused by people getting in over thier head, and anyone who says they rode 8 footers in a shallow 14 footer, wouldnt know an 8 footer if it capsized them, bottom line is, you caused your peril, not the lake
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RE: The worst of the worst
2010/05/22 12:56:19
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been 3 miles offshore in 6-8 footRs........ I was perch fishing from a jet ski ... It was fun!!!!
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RE: The worst of the worst
2010/05/22 13:36:00
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The last tournament I fished on Erie, about 15 years ago, I ran from Presque Isle, where the tournament was launched, to just about the NY line. It was flat as could be and it was a 25 minute all out run to get there. When the weather started to turn, rollers first, then closer together, then some starting to cap, albeit, they were only 2 footers at the time, I told my partner that we were headed in because it was going to get bad and in a hurry, much to his disappointment -- it was his first Erie expereince. It wouldn't be one that he soon forgot. We stored everything and stuff that couldn't go in a locker was strapped down. He asked why I was locking the lockers and when I told him because if we don't make it back with the boat, I at least want to be able to salvage my gear from the wreckage on the rocks. He thought I was kidding. I wasn't. We started back and from the NY line to Shade's I was pretty much of the mindset that we might not make it back despite a lot of rough water boating experience and a 20 foot state of the art bass boat. When we made it to McCord's, I figured we would live, but still might not bring the boat home with us. By the time we made it to the Crib's, I knew we would not only live, but would bring the boat home as well, but we still might lose some electronics, seats, or the trolling motor. When we made it back inside the chute of the bay, it was assured that we would be okay and not suffer any equipment loses either. So I opened up the lockers and we finsihed off our limits in the Bay. It was the only way to keep from freaking out about what just happened. To this day, I don't think he understood what it took to get back in. It was a constant throttle up to raise the bow to almost the crest, and then ease it back to drop the nose somewhat while sliding into the trough, and then repeat just before bottoming out and slamming the bow into the next wave. It was a 6.5 hour ride back in. Others were not so lucky that day.
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RE: The worst of the worst
2010/05/22 13:47:46
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ORIGINAL: DarDys The last tournament I fished on Erie, about 15 years ago, was that the day like 15 or so bass boats capsized?
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RE: The worst of the worst
2010/05/22 14:46:12
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ORIGINAL: nwpaconcours Lightning scares me more on that lake than the waves. If you don't lose power and aren't stupid you can survive waves. Lightning sucks. Years back we were off walnut in one or the other of the trenches with an incoming thunderstorm west of Ashtabula (we were aware it was coming and preparing to run back in). We started hearing crackling sound on the boat realized the antenna (aka lightning rod) was building a charge. We'll never know how close we were to a strike, but its still spooky to think about it. Lesson is that even a distant thunderstorm still presents risk... Similar thing happened to me. 2 years ago we were out of Lampe, only 2-3 miles out or so. We saw some hairy looking weather coming and began to troll back to port. As the waves started to cap, we decided to pull in our gear and head in for the day. I just happened to be the lucky one to grab the lead core. As I was reeling this thing in the charge building was so intense it sounded like a taser going off with each crank. In the rush of things I managed to touch the **** line, it about put me on my butt! The heck with those lead core taser lines, I'm going to stick with braid/mono for the future. Other than that, I have been in some 3-4's with a 5 tossed in, in a 19' boat. Other than being uncomfortable and wet, really no big deal. I just wouldn't want to make a habit out of it.
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RE: The worst of the worst
2010/05/22 18:43:35
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ORIGINAL: bluntman Ill pi$$ people off, but some of the stories Ive read here were not caused by the weather, they were caused by people getting in over thier head, and anyone who says they rode 8 footers in a shallow 14 footer, wouldnt know an 8 footer if it capsized them, bottom  line is, you caused your peril, not the lake Relax duud, you don't have to believe me. But I did and have a few guys that will tell you the same cause they saw me coming in. Yea, I was crazy in my younger days, lol. It wasn't peril, it was a rush, lol.
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RE: The worst of the worst
2010/05/22 18:51:45
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ORIGINAL: bluntman Ill pi$$ people off, but some of the stories Ive read here were not caused by the weather, they were caused by people getting in over thier head, and anyone who says they rode 8 footers in a shallow 14 footer, wouldnt know an 8 footer if it capsized them, bottom  line is, you caused your peril, not the lake I've seen guys not only in 14 ft boats and ligit 8 ft waves, I've seen them continue fishing. Go to NY during late aug,early sept,when the kings are close to shore. Those guys have no fear and some prefer the smaller boat for a more stealthy approach. judging by thier boats having a floor loaded with 20+ kings, I think they know what they are doing.
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RE: The worst of the worst
2010/05/22 19:11:51
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The sad fact is when you dumbasses need help it puts others at risk, a 16 footer is marginal in good weather, a 14 footer is just plain stupidity if you cant throw a rock to the shore
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RE: The worst of the worst
2010/05/22 20:14:59
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I was coming into Walnut last year after getting blown off the lake by 3 and 4 footers. In fact, I had to pass Walnut to the East and turn and ride the waves in (it was easier). As my father and I came in, I spotted 4 big guys in a fiberglass 12 or 14 foot trihull. the gunwhales were about 12 or so inches from the water and they were sitting or frick'en lawn chairs!!! I warned them that I just got blown off the lake and there were true 4 footers out there. They looked at me like I was from Mars....... They went out anyway........ Oh well, I guess if it wasn't for morons, we would not need the Coast Guard.
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RE: The worst of the worst
2010/05/23 10:43:04
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ORIGINAL: Raab ORIGINAL: DarDys The last tournament I fished on Erie, about 15 years ago, was that the day like 15 or so bass boats capsized? Actually, it was a different tournament, but I was on the water the day that the 14 boats went down, including two from my club. The water was rought hat day, but not nearly as bad as the incident I described. Most swampings that day were due to pure inexperience on the Big Pond -- even the guys form my club. One of them got hung up with a grub and walked ot the back deck to try to shake it loose. When he did, two thins happened -- 1) there were now two people on the back deck, making it way too low in the water, and 2) by walking back, he let off the trolling motor which he was using to keep the bow into the wind. Without the trolling motor, the boat swung around, turning the now heavy, low riding stern into the waves and he took three quick ones over the back, basically swamping the boat. My other club member, was within sight of me on the NY border. Back n those days, there was an external vent to the gas tank and they were not guarded. He took a few onto the back deck, nothing unusual when idling aorund in a search pattern with the electronics. Apparently, so water got in through the vent and he could not get the boat to plane, just idle. I suggested that he just idle toward Presque Isle and that I would follow him to make sure he was okay. His partner (it was a draw tournament, so we didn't know the guy) was in a full blown panic. With his partner freaking out, my buddy decided to pull over to the Norht East Boat Livery, as I beleive it was called then, to call to Presque Isle to get his trailer -- there weren't cells then, just pay phones. The North East Marina wasn't in existance then either, just a dirt launch ramp and a boat davit. When I saw him get with 50 yards of the Livery, I just headed back out fishing. Well, he pulls onto the davit (there wasn't a dock) and just as they are going to lift the boat up and out of the water, the dvit looses power. The boat is motionless in the sling and it takes a wave over the back and is swamped. My buddy ended up hitch-hiking back to Presque Isle to get his truck and trailer. By the time he got back, they had power restored, had lifted and drained his boat and he loaded it up, releasing what would have been the winning limit of bass. I can't write for certain what happened with the other boats that day.
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RE: The worst of the worst
2010/05/29 22:47:23
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ORIGINAL: bluntman The sad fact is when you dumbasses need help it puts others at risk, a 16 footer is marginal in good weather, a 14 footer is just plain stupidity if you cant throw a rock to the shore No,no,no, you got it wrong. It's dumas's
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RE: The worst of the worst
2010/05/30 07:55:43
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was that the day like 15 or so bass boats capsized? Don,t know if this was the tournament my bud was in, but he broke his bass boat in half hitting a wave. He was an excellent basser and said there were many boats lost that day. Myself, 15-17 years ago, had a 24' Thompson , put out of Walnut with 2-3 fters. and hit the 2nd trench. Within a few hrs. the waves were rollers of 10-14 fters. Had side breakers that prevented any attemp of turn out of the question. Had to ride the waves in and ended up in Conny. Turned the boat and crossed at an angle just to get back. What got me was looking at that wall of water then riding to the top to see a few more boats doing the same thing. Freaking scary.
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RE: The worst of the worst
2010/05/30 08:19:29
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ORIGINAL: Mikastorm was that the day like 15 or so bass boats capsized? Don,t know if this was the tournament my bud was in, but he broke his bass boat in half hitting a wave. He was an excellent basser and said there were many boats lost that day. Myself, 15-17 years ago, had a 24' Thompson , put out of Walnut with 2-3 fters. and hit the 2nd trench. Within a few hrs. the waves were rollers of 10-14 fters. Had side breakers that prevented any attemp of turn out of the question. Had to ride the waves in and ended up in Conny. Turned the boat and crossed at an angle just to get back. What got me was looking at that wall of water then riding to the top to see a few more boats doing the same thing. Freaking scary. I think I would have pulled into conny and changed my fruit of the looms first!
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RE: The worst of the worst
2010/06/01 09:12:12
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I see a trend here...Not many people starting their story with "I was on Erie with my 20 some foot glass boat"....Just Sayin
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RE: The worst of the worst
2010/06/01 10:03:42
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I see that this thread is still going so... My brother-in-law came into town from Florida for just a few days. I had been telling him about the great walleye fishing for a year and he wanted to get out. The problem was that I had just had the snip snip. I was one of the lucky few that had complications! After checking the weather first thing at 5:00 am, south winds 5-10 mph, I decided to go. The fish that summer were between the trenches on the Ohio line. We made the run out of walnut in my 18' starcraft with no problem and started to boat fish by 7:30. End of good time came by 8:30. The wind picked up so fast that to this day I've never seen it stir up faster. We were heading in by 8:35 in 4-6-8 footers! Headed straightest line to south as that was the wind direction still. I looked like a major league batter for the whole 1.5 hour trip to shoreline. Never was worried about the boat or waves, but still thought I was going to die! Worst ride of my life! Up the wave....OW! Up the wave...OW!
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