pikepredator2
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FURLED LEADERS
Anyone tell me the advantages/disadvantages of furled leaders over single strand leaders?
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RE: FURLED LEADERS
2010/05/09 09:08:56
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RE: FURLED LEADERS
2010/05/09 13:43:43
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I've used Furled Leaders from Feathercraft off and on over the last few years. I like them alot when surface fishing...so-so for steamer and nymph fishing under. The new ones have tiny rings to fasten your tippet to, and you can get some with a swivel to keep twist out. They make leader building simple and casting is unreal - they lay out a fly beautifully. On the down side, they are quite visible in the water, even the fluorocarbon ones, I find them heavy - hard to keep floating, and I don't like the abrasive feel when reeling through the guides. I can only recommend trying one yourself (or borrow one from a friend) to see if it works for you.
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RE: FURLED LEADERS
2010/05/10 10:49:32
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i used them. they're best when dry fly fishing slightly stained water. some come waxed and will float nicely, or you can apply some gink to them. they help if you're using a long leader as well. i have sworn off braided orvis leaders. they're a pain in my**** they tangle very easily with any wind. but like said previously, try one
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RE: FURLED LEADERS
2010/05/10 10:53:49
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ORIGINAL: razmatazz05 i have sworn off braided orvis leaders. they're a pain in my**** they tangle very easily with any wind. Um, that wouldn't be the leader's fault.
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RE: FURLED LEADERS
2010/05/10 11:00:50
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yes and no. i feel with all extra things going on with the leader theres more room for error. especially with wind. but human error is a factor as well.
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RE: FURLED LEADERS
2010/05/10 11:10:25
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Braided =/= Furled Very different.
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RE: FURLED LEADERS
2010/05/10 11:12:55
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yes, i've used both. i stated that i've used the furreled with moderate success. braided with little success due to human error. any more for trout i go with a 4 or 6# vanish 5 foot leader and tie on tippet from there. for smallies its been #12 leader with 6# leader.
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RE: FURLED LEADERS
2010/05/10 11:15:00
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Yeah, was just sayin' for the OP.
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RE: FURLED LEADERS
2010/05/11 14:24:47
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Also, furled leaders seem easier to cast than single-stranded tapered... anyone else think so? i usually just tie my own tapered leaders (not single strand but...) and use the knots to rubon the float paste if i want it to float works good enough..
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RE: FURLED LEADERS
2010/05/11 14:31:23
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I loved the Cortland braided leaders. I did cut them off after the first mono section and build my own from there, but the braided section with the mono core served as a great base. They no longer make them. I think I have 12 or so left.
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RE: FURLED LEADERS
2010/05/11 15:25:01
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My buddy Mike and I make our own furled leaders. We got the plans for the jig and instructions from the internet. It was from the "Hatches" site, if I remember correctly. We make them out of Unithread, monofilament, flourocarbon line, nylon thread from Sewing/craft stores, and even silk. They come out about 52", with a three stage taper. Initially, I attached mine to my fly line "loop to loop", but recently, I have been using "Leader links" from Eagle Claw. They look like little plastic footballs. You put your fly line through one end, knot it, and pull it back. Same thing with the furled leader. If I'm nymphing, I put a very small Blackbird barrrel swivel (gottem from Fish USA) and for dries, I just do the loop to loop. I use Gink floatant, and when I treat a furled leader it floats like cork. The ones that we make are soft and limp, especially the ones from UniThread. I went through two of these during the Steelhead season, cut one on a rock at Walnut. I love using them. They stretch, taking shock away from your tippet and knots. You save a lot on tippet also. I usually only use a two foot piece when fishing for pelletheads around home. I've been using a new 3 wt. since March. I'm still on the first furled leader that I put on when I got the outfit. As far as casting, since they are nice and limp, they straighten out nicely when laying down a dry fly. I do see some wear after nymphing or running streamers. I have used dubbing wax, and it helped to "tighten up" the frayed area. We have a ball when we get together to make up leaders. They don't always work out, but we are getting pretty good at it.
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RE: FURLED LEADERS
2010/05/12 10:18:49
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Furled leaders turn over better and don't develop memory like single strand leaders do. Ones made out of 6/0 unithread and treated with floatant are very good for dry fly fishing, imo the fluro ones have more limited use, and if you are casting into any kind of wind, forget about it. Furled leaders suck in the wind.........
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RE: FURLED LEADERS
2010/05/12 11:03:29
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Nothing works as well as well as a properly tapered mono leader nail knotted onto your flyine. Forget the furled leaders, store bought leader/line connectors, and swivels and learn to tie knots, and taper & repair your leaders without the shortcuts.
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RE: FURLED LEADERS
2010/05/12 17:27:03
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I have asked this question previously on here, but I never really got a good response. How do these leaders work for nymphing? It seems as if they would generate more sub-surface drag and be very counter productive for dead drifting. I would think this would be especially in deeper runs; I suppose you could use a long length of tippet, however that would seem to defeat the purpose. Anyone have any comments on this?
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RE: FURLED LEADERS
2010/05/12 17:36:27
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do you nymph for pike and musky?
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RE: FURLED LEADERS
2010/05/12 17:44:21
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Yes
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razmatazz05
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RE: FURLED LEADERS
2010/05/12 17:52:47
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RE: FURLED LEADERS
2010/05/12 18:16:09
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Haha If I had any nymphs big enough and all the patience in the world I would probably give it a shot. I haven't been after the toothy critters on the fly in a few years. This year I am going to give it another whirl, and likely go after some wipers as well.
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