Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh the SUN !!!!!!

doc those pics must be doctored.  there are no deer in NC PA

CORRECTION.. It is now 6:40pm.. there are 4 at my feeder in the backyard and 6 in my pasture field across the lane...

so if the FLIR went over they would have counted 31 deer with in a square mile....  no deer here !!!!!

Good lord, are you guys buying tags and burning them up there, or what? You are being overrun!

No bucks for me if I hunt my usual spots (which I will), as I have explained to you a hundred times...
 
 
 
 
and that still leaves 9 in another field that is open to the public for hunting...
 
and my 4 pets plus 6 more still equals 10 deer on my property that came off on SGL#54....
 
still adds up to over 31 in a square mile no matter how you cut it....
 
I wonder how many are out there now (dark)  if I spotlighted those same fields ?????  50 -60 ????

Havent seen many around here. The turkies probablt ran em off.

i took a ride to cabelas a couple days ago.bouta 45 min. drive and i could of counted prob 60 or so. they where in every field.

That's like the PGC doing a pellet count in a standing cornfield after snowmelt and claiming there were 31DPSM in the whole game lands.

 
and you know as well as I do that is NOT how ANYONE does a pellet count.....
 
you really love to make up stuff just for the sake of arguement  don't you ?????????

Welllll Doc, just how many DPSM does your gamelands contain?

well the guys who spotlight the four neighboring farm fields on Game School Road always see between 20 and 30 in each field.. two of the fields are RED TAGS and open for the asking.... and the owner is still complaining about crop damage... he runs a dairy farm... his problem is he has mostly fields...  where the woods start is game lands so the red tag is no good for hunting in the woods.. and smart deer are not in the fields during the daylight.... so he gets few hunters...

keep in mind this is the same farm that borders the parking lot that I talk about that use to be full at 5 am and parking on the road starts... and now has maybe 5 or 6 trucks in it on opening day and they are gone by afternoon... no hunters...  means no deer moving and less sightings..

as for dpsm... my estimate based on seeing deer and  talking with others.. we probably still have over 20 per square mile around the farm areas... maybe 10 when you get away from the farms and deeper into the wooded areas of SGL#54.... but I do not hunt there so would not know...  but 10 is probably about right ???

SGL #54 equals = 23,481 acres

ORIGINAL: akitadog

i took a ride to cabelas a couple days ago.bouta 45 min. drive and i could of counted prob 60 or so. they where in every field.

Dude, I know you well enough to say that if there were three deer in the entire county, you would see two of them. You are like a deer and fish magnet.

about half what we used to have.. I can remember in the 80s not being able to count all the deer in those 4 fields.... and it was nothing to see over 30 deer on opening day... but maybe 2 in 10 were bucks and they were small and scrubs...
 
but we also had BAD BAD BAD winter kills because we had so many running around with nothiong to eat in the woods once the fields got snow and ice covered... .. I always found dead (starved) deer along the trout stream in the spring behind my place... I remember finding two dead beautiful 8 pointers one year laying side by side in the stream ... and one other year 6 deer (no antlers) laying on a power line right of way...

ORIGINAL: Ironhed

ORIGINAL: DanesDad

ORIGINAL: akitadog

i took a ride to cabelas a couple days ago.bouta 45 min. drive and i could of counted prob 60 or so. they where in every field.

Dude, I know you well enough to say that if there were three deer in the entire county, you would see two of them. You are like a deer and fish magnet.

And those 2 deer would be in the 165" class.

Ironhed

Oh, you know him too!