Anyone want some deer?

i live in Allegheny Co and have a crazy neighbor who is feeding deer
there are now about 15 of them

i briefly spoke with the game commission
sounds like 50yrs from a house or within that range when permitted by owner
they are fair game

well here is my permission
hell i'll even give you some coffee while you here and some beer after you take one of these F-ers out

i HAVE NOT read the laws and I don't hunt
so if this is in violation of any laws... disregard

send me a PM
come take a look
i have a 1/2 acre on a long lot that should help with distance laws

You should ask the pgc to stock a mountain lion. They do that, ya know.

How do you know the deer you shot wasn't headed to a bait station? I bet every deer shot by bow in St. Clair, Bethel, Peters, and many other suburban neighborhoods was fed by somebody. Is planting a garden or a Mulberry tree in your yard baiting deer? Who cares...

the PGC gave me the idea of archery hunting

i would love for the lady to see i deer die or a nice pile of blood
then she will stop feeding these things

ORIGINAL: griffon

Unfortunately, that would be in violation.  If the neighbor is deliberately feeding them, then they are being baited.  Shooting them anywhere along their route to the bait pile would be considered hunting over bait, regardless of the distance. 

There is a maximum distance that you need to be beyond in order to be legal. It is probably farther away than KLHs property, but it is a set distance from the bait.

ORIGINAL: DanesDad

ORIGINAL: griffon

Unfortunately, that would be in violation.  If the neighbor is deliberately feeding them, then they are being baited.  Shooting them anywhere along their route to the bait pile would be considered hunting over bait, regardless of the distance. 

There is a maximum distance that you need to be beyond in order to be legal. It is probably farther away than KLHs property, but it is a set distance from the bait.

 
I'm pretty sure there isn't a set distance.   If a WCO can determine the deer was there (in this case where a hunter shot it) was because of baiting, they can fine you.   Stomach contents can give that away.   That said, there's alot of gray area there too.    For instance, if the guy in the bottoms is baiting on private property and I'm up 500 yards from it on state property, with no knowledge of the baiting occuring.. how can I be fined from shooting a deer ?
 
Wishy washy I'd say.    It's all about interpretation.
 
 
Years ago I found some good buck sign in a popular spot about three weeks before the opener.   Hunted it the first morning.   Pulled in just before another guy and was asked if I was hunting the saddle.   Hunted until 11 am and stumbled on some APPLES 50 yards from my tree.   Same thing happened years ago in another area close with a huge salt lick.   I even hunted the trail headed to it !   I asked my local WCO about these instances last year -- she just laughed.

A friend was detained, 10 years ago , archery hunting, for 6 hours for "hunting over bait" The bait was apples,dumped at the edge of the landowners yard. He was around 250 yards from the "bait". The wardens reoeatedly asked where the salt block was. Upon his release, he was not fined but was told not to hunt there again because it was on a trail that leads to the yard where the apples were. Take the story as you want to.

Guys, didn't he say the PGC gave him the idea to try archery hunting?

Well---The PGC has one of the most aggressive law enforcement divisions in the state. Maybe they are drumming up business. One guy tells you something is legal and notifys his partner who waits for you to do it and busts you. That aside, you are just asking for trouble by hunting anywhere near an area where food is being put out for deer.

Your really at the mercy of the WCO as deer will travel long distances to get preferred food. I tracked a small herd I felt contained a good buck for over a mile from a corn field in late season before I quit them. They never knew I was behind them and I never saw them. A couple of the ones I am feeding in my yard bed two hills over from me.

Said to say but there are people that do it every year then call to report the violation.  Hopefully, discretion is used but you are at the mercy of others to make the determination. 

It is a gray area that has caused alot of trouble for many folks. 
 
I have to admit I was semi-concerned when I called the PGC to help recover my buck this year.  Many feed deer year round in this area and it is not hard to find cobs of corn without their kernels in the woods that the critters have carried from feeders and such.... Salt blocks in many yards.
 
The WCO checked my story and investigated the kill site and everything was cool.  Great experience. 
 
 

Yeah  would be glad to l help you out .The season ends Saturday the 23rd .Shoot me an e-mail kurigew@yahoo.com ...Thanks

guess he thinks "It's hip to be square"!