carpin05
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early doe 2B
this two week early doe season SUCKS....
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RE: early doe 2B
2007/09/18 21:09:38
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I agree.....six weeks of archery doe wasn't enough?
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RE: early doe 2B
2007/09/19 08:51:58
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Let me pry a little here... why does it suck? Its been cold, great time to shoot a deer. I know of a couple places where I could prob whack a doe right at this minute. 6 weeks apperently wasnt enough, those areas have a high population. One of the keys to big bucks is shooting more doe's. Give me the early season, I prob would have gotten a bonus tag.
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RE: early doe 2B
2007/09/19 12:35:19
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Jeremy, We have had the big bucks here for as long as i can remember. In my 9 years of hunting someone has killed a buck 140+ every year within a mile of my primary hunting area. Most of the areas I hunt I would guess to have around 3-1 doe to buck. Last year on the 400 acres I hunt I personally saw 12 shooter bucks throughout the season along with a few scrappers. The overpopulation you speak of is literally in the city. The majority of the hunting is NOT in the city. They need to find a program to better eliminate urban deer. Right now a few places allow certified archers to come in the city areas. The game commission is trying to use a solve all program to entice more hunters in 2-B to eliminate as many doe as possible. This may be necessary for a small portion of 2-B however the majority of it has a decent doe-buck ratio and some great bucks. This is especially true for northern allegheny and southern butler county. Also the massive amounts of oaks, multiflora, and corn/soy fields available are able to support a higher density of deer while still producing some giants. Chris
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RE: early doe 2B
2007/09/19 13:17:25
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Don't bow hunt anymore, but where I hunt in 2B in southern Butler Co., the doe population has been thinned pretty effectively. Not over-hunted yet, but the past 2 years I'd say I've observed about a 1:3 buck to doe ratio. I like it personally. Have seen more shooter bucks the last 2 years than ever before and I spend less time in the woods than I did a few years back. I don't think an extra 2 weeks of archery for does is going to put much of a hurt on the deer popluation in northern sections of 2B (away from the city and suburbs) but I am starting to get a little concerned about the extra time for does with firearms in my neck of 2B. Closer to the 'Burgh? No problem.
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RE: early doe 2B
2007/09/19 15:12:18
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I agree with Chris , I grew up in 2-b economy boro to be exact and it's always held big bucks and good buck to doe ratios . This is due to landowners communicating and not posting the whole ****ed woods . I hunt on the neighbors land he hunts on my families . The problem is going to be always where access is limited . Thats where I'll be right on the property boundaries with the housing developements . I shoot 90% of my deer there ( already downed a button buck ) yesterday . Saw a 120 class 10PT as well . Looks like the EHD killed 15 deer next to my stompping grounds so I will let the girls walk this year . Micro management is all of our responsibility . We reap what we sow . Can't blame the bureuocrats who always seem to need an( let history teach us the lessons of greed & politics ) insurance companies kick back that they slaughtered the deer ; we're the one's with the choice whack or walk. I no longer hunt up north doe ratio ; just play cards & sip on some cold ones.
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RE: early doe 2B
2007/09/19 16:02:50
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NO NO NO... Iam not worryed about the killing of deer!!! It will ruin the first day??? I hunt very small tracks of woods where your best chance for a good buck is the first few days or the rut.this is for the most part.you can get lucky.. Anyways,Now you have meet greedy hogs ( i know a few) stomping around,stinking up the woods... Hell Jeremy i can kill a doe to day as the sun goes down, I should have made my point to begin with.. sorry that my fault!! maybe it just sucks for me??? LOL Oh well good luck all...
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RE: early doe 2B
2007/09/19 19:35:35
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I was wondering if that was what you meant?? I agree. My stands have been up since early September and I won't set foot into my spots till bucks are legal. The first few days are great for whacking a buck before they go into hiding in the middle of October till the rut.
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RE: early doe 2B
2007/09/19 19:50:24
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You can hunt in the city u/no/ even Pitts. Don't need to be cert. either.
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RE: early doe 2B
2007/09/19 20:06:31
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Never said you need to be certified to hunt in/around Pittsburgh. I said a FEW municipalities have introduced certified archers in very urban areas to keep the population in check.
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RE: early doe 2B
2007/09/19 20:09:17
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I no/that. Thought u said, "right now a few places allow cert. archers to come in the city areas." My bad
post edited by crappiefisher - 2007/09/19 20:14:02
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RE: early doe 2B
2007/09/19 20:59:42
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Crappie, you are right that is what I said...not what I meant...sorry. Carpin, that definatly is a valid point about having people all over the woods 2 weeks before buck comes in, good chance you may not see the bucks first week as in years past. Oh well, there is always the rut
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RE: early doe 2B
2007/09/22 00:29:15
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Well, I just got my tag and it's too warm to bother right now.
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RE: early doe 2B
2007/09/22 10:15:13
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What's the difference if you are doe hunting or not? 50-75% of the local archers are still out walking around,sitting in their stands,checking cameras and doing last minute scouting anyway. Lets face it most archers don't screw up their own set-ups someone else does it for them. Mike
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RE: early doe 2B
2007/09/22 23:26:24
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I didn't go out today. But doe and a little one walked by the yard, and another doe watched me mowing the lawn from a gas line right of way. All were within 50 yards. So, if you ever see some idiot mowing the lawn with a bow strapped to his riding mower, chances are, it's me.
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RE: early doe 2B
2007/09/28 10:14:32
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Where I hunt in northern 2B it won't be a problem. ATVs, horses, people in yards, farm work, others scouting and bumbling through the woods; it all goes on all year long anyhow. Just too darn hot for me to want to go out there and try and kill a doe right now. The does can still use some thinning in northern 2B where I am but I have definitely seen an improvement in the bucks. A lot more 2.5 yr olds out there now.
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