Pymatuning Tuttle Camp Ground To Close

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RE: Pymatuning Tuttle Camp Ground 2010/02/10 10:27:38 (permalink)
And you don't seem to understand that in state parks all across the state, manager's are receiving 25% less funding (or worse) that what that master budget requires to keep all employees and campgrounds, and other facilities open. You don't seem to realize exactly how bad the situation is for the State Parks right now. It will be a miracle if all our state parks remain open, even with partial closings like Tuttle campground. You can shift things around in a budget all you want, but there is bottom line, a base ammount it takes to keep everything open, and that ammount isn't being met.

You're about one thing. I am mad as heck. Mad that the general assembly will continue to sink BILLIONS more into education every year, but won't give 9 million to allow the state parks to operate the the level they always have. I'm mad that proceeds from OGM drilling on DCNR land (part of which used to go back to the DCNR to balance their budget and help provide services), now goes directly into the general fund.

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RE: Pymatuning Tuttle Camp Ground 2010/02/10 17:53:35 (permalink)
You are right on that SonofZ3; we need to vote them all, I mean all, of them out.  Everyone needs to think long and hard before you vote.
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RE: Pymatuning Tuttle Camp Ground 2010/02/11 11:44:39 (permalink)
You know what they say:
You can't fix stupid but you can vote them out!
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RE: Pymatuning Tuttle Camp Ground 2010/02/11 14:17:07 (permalink)
Only thing bad about voting them all out is, the next in line is either the same or worse...  It would be nice for a few politicians to actually be for the average Joe.
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RE: Pymatuning Tuttle Camp Ground 2010/02/12 22:35:47 (permalink)
if you reach into to your pocket and drop a few bills in their direction they will be your best friend.
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RE: Pymatuning Tuttle Camp Ground To Close 2010/02/17 12:03:30 (permalink)
Folks of Tuttle Campground,
I know this is a hard time for all of you. And I can't imagine what would happen if our campground shut down. However, here at Lake Village Campground, we want to extend an invitation to join us here, if you would be interested. We are going to offer all members of Tuttle Campground a free night stay, to get a chance to have a look at our grounds. If you would at all be interested in joining us, we will also be offering 2 free Waldameer tickets for those who become a member with us.

As of now, our rates are $695 for a roving membership, with all fees paid thru 4/30/11
Our rates for our permanent sites are $2227.00 for a developed lot, and $1727.00 for an undeveloped lot, also with all fees paid thru 4/30/11.

Our website is www.lakevillagecampground.com. Please have a look. I think you will find that, although you have hit a tough time, Lake Village could be a great new spot for you. 
post edited by LVCampground - 2010/02/17 15:11:31
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RE: Pymatuning Tuttle Camp Ground To Close 2010/02/17 22:15:48 (permalink)
Use of the board to advertise or promote the commercial sale of goods or services is prohibited.   " just saying ",,,special rules for special services?
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RE: Pymatuning Tuttle Camp Ground To Close 2010/03/16 21:19:38 (permalink)

from GoErie.com


Published: March 16. 2010 4:56PM

Changes at Pymatuning State Park focus of community information session

JAMESTOWN, Pa. -- Pymatuning State Park will host an informational meeting Wednesday from 6:30 to 7:30 p.m. in the classroom at the Jamestown Marina, off Route 322.



Park officials will address recently completed improvement projects and other changes at the park, including the closing of Tuttle Campground this season.


Officials will open the meeting by fielding questions from the public.


Pymatuning is Pennsylvania's second most-visited state park, after Presque Isle. Attendance in 2009 was 3.48 million visitors to Pymatuning and 3.96 million to Presque Isle, according to the state Department of Conservation and Natural Resources.


For more information, call the Pymatuning State Park office at (724) 932-3141.
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RE: Pymatuning Tuttle Camp Ground To Close 2010/03/16 21:43:27 (permalink)
Do you guys think that we can have access to Tuttle's boat launch even if the campground closes?
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RE: Pymatuning Tuttle Camp Ground To Close 2010/03/16 22:10:39 (permalink)
GOOD QUESTION?
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RE: Pymatuning Tuttle Camp Ground To Close 2010/03/17 19:38:07 (permalink)
No!! From what I have been told by the park!! Is that the gate will be close at the entrance of tuttle camp and the Beach , pavilion, and all facilities will be closed for 2010. This SUCKS!!!!!
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RE: Pymatuning Tuttle Camp Ground To Close 2010/03/18 22:01:39 (permalink)
From todays Meadville Tribune


March 18, 2010

Park's recover may take longer than thought
Staff Writer
CNHI

JAMESTOWN —

JAMESTOWN — It may take Pymatuning State Park longer than expected to recover from budget cuts that have forced the closure of the park’s 198-site Tuttle Point campground, along with its beach and boat launch.

That was the bad news at Wednesday’s public meeting at the park. The good news is that other facilities are being improved and there are no service fee increases this year.

The decision to shut down the Tuttle facilities came earlier this year when the Department of Conservation of Natural Resources and Bureau of State Parks announced budget cuts. Pymatuning’s 2009-10 budget was trimmed by $219,000.

“Our intention is for the Tuttle closure to be a one-year deal,” Houghton said. “But if I could be up front and forward, the economy doesn’t look like it’s turning around. If the economy and tax revenues don’t come around then I see next year being a real potential also.”

Tuttle was chosen because of its high cost of operation and maintenance. One of the issues is the fact that the campground is not connected to a public water system. It runs on its own.

It’s also proved less than overwhelmingly popular. Campsite occupancy was less than 18 percent in 2009.

“Our intake with Tuttle last year was around $77,000 but the cost for upkeep was close to $170,000,” Houghton said. “So the question comes in there of, ‘What is it? Is it a service?’ We are tax-supported. That’s what the issue with Tuttle was. We hope that’s not long-term.”

More than 400 campsites remain open at the park’s Linesville and Jamestown campgrounds and the Manning and Wilson boat launches have been upgraded in the immediate area in an effort to address the closure of the launch at Tuttle.

With a fewer campsites available, reservations can be made in advance but are not required. Houghton did, however, suggest making a reservation for a holiday weekend. He also mentioned the cost is less to reserve a space on the internet at dcnr.state.pa.us.

Houghton said the feedback on Tuttle’s closing for 2010 was originally “nasty” but has since leveled off.

“The e-mails we have been getting lately have shown people are very, very disappointed but they understand,” he said. “State parks aren’t exempt from the economy. Our budget was cut around $219,000. Last year we were cut and now we were cut again this year.”

One of the subjects discussed by the Bureau of State Parks was the impact on the local surrounding economy.

“Espyville was one of the subjects we talked about,” Houghton said. “We realize the potential impact on Espyville. We also improved the launch ramp at Espyville.”

Those who had already booked Tuttle campsites have been sent correspondence and recommendations for other locations to camp. Also, electricity hook-ups and pet-friendly campsites are currently being added to the other campgrounds.

Getting Tuttle back up and running more efficiently is already in the works.

“We’re putting a plan together with the Bureau of State Parks about what we can do with Tuttle in the future,” Houghton said. “Obviously we will get project money allocated for the future. We have to show where we are not going to lose money.”

This year was also the first in the past four where there were no rate raises on any services in the park. There is a possibility that will change in the future to help fund Tuttle’s reopening.

Four members of the public in attended the meeting, two from Westford and two from Espyville.



T.J. Turrisi can be reached at 724-6370, ext. 276 or by e-mail at tjturrisi@meadvilletribune.com.
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RE: Pymatuning Tuttle Camp Ground To Close 2010/03/18 22:10:00 (permalink)
"It’s also proved less than overwhelmingly popular. Campsite occupancy was less than 18 percent in 2009."


I knew the place always looked empty, but I did not realize it was that empty. So out of 198 sites on average 35 were occupied.
I always thought those sites on the lake were awsome.
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RE: Pymatuning Tuttle Camp Ground To Close 2010/03/29 20:57:16 (permalink)
That was the bad news at Wednesday’s public meeting at the park. The good news is that other facilities are being improved and there are no service fee increases this year.

They have the money to improve the other camps but none to open tuttle!! How can this be?

It’s also proved less than overwhelmingly popular. Campsite occupancy was less than 18 percent in 2009


No wonder Pete has done nothing to improve tuttle in years and run the people off. What do you except people get tired of the mud and slop,

Lies all Lies!!! IMHO.
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