js4444
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posted property
today we parked at folley's on elk and fished down about a 1/4 to 1/2 mile and ran into a cable stretching across the creek that said notrespassing. This sign was not there the last time we fished this stretch. can anyone tell me what this is all about?
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joedv1218
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RE: posted property
2009/11/28 22:32:52
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Jesus said, "I tell you the truth, No one can see the Kingdom of God unless he is born again." John 3:3 "Some go to church and think about fishing, others go fishing and think about God."~by Tony Blake~
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js4444
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RE: posted property
2009/11/28 22:37:45
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do you know anything about it?
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6point7
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RE: posted property
2009/11/28 22:52:11
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That usually indicates private property. That means the landowner does not want you on their land. That's what I know about it.
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joedv1218
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RE: posted property
2009/11/28 22:55:16
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ORIGINAL: 6point7
That usually indicates private property. That means the landowner does not want you on their land. That's what I know about it.
Thank you Mr. Obvious
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RE: posted property
2009/11/28 22:58:58
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I don't always snag fish, but when I do... I choose Little Cleos I'm the best looking smartest snagging poacher alive...
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6point7
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RE: posted property
2009/11/28 22:59:44
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no problem...anything I can do to help clear up complicated issues chef. 'ere
post edited by 6point7 - 2009/11/28 23:02:15
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joedv1218
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RE: posted property
2009/11/28 23:01:31
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Jesus said, "I tell you the truth, No one can see the Kingdom of God unless he is born again." John 3:3 "Some go to church and think about fishing, others go fishing and think about God."~by Tony Blake~
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RE: posted property
2009/11/28 23:51:29
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Joe,
Deer season had a part to posting it in the past. Stayed off that strech ov crick for some yrs. now even though some guys told me it was for rifle season only. But to me posted means stay out.
Crappy
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RE: posted property
2009/11/29 19:13:18
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That cable's been there since last season, not because of hunting season. The guy at the top of the hill does not want anyone fishing there without permission.
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RE: posted property
2009/11/29 19:15:46
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It is P A E N for welcome.
Quality over quantity I am reality I>U JC Rules!!!!!!!
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RE: posted property
2009/11/30 07:27:25
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The guy's name is Al that has that property it says what it means and he will kick you out real fast and who ever has permission will kick you out to(at his request) he has had alot of problems with guys messing up his property and everyone that has permission was told to stay away during deer season. Al is a nice guy overall and I think if you just ask him if you can fish he might let you. hope that helps
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RE: posted property
2009/11/30 09:52:47
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Its amazing that some folks just cannot accept the fact that posted signs go up everyday...Its even more amazing how some totally ignore them as if they don't understand what they mean. The signs will continue to go up as the litter continues, the stampeeds continue and the ignorance persists. I'm not a landowner, but I know some and they are getting tired of all the BS and so would I. Whats it all about? It means stay the "F" out or go get permission from the landowner to be on his/her property! That simple. 
post edited by ShutUpNFish - 2009/11/30 09:54:20
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RE: posted property
2009/12/01 11:25:05
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ORIGINAL: js4444
today we parked at folley's on elk and fished down about a 1/4 to 1/2 mile and ran into a cable stretching across the creek that said notrespassing. This sign was not there the last time we fished this stretch. can anyone tell me what this is all about?
This is the third season for the cable. You must not fish that area often.
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HD
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RE: posted property
2009/12/01 12:54:27
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I dont understand about private property, cause i was told a while ago a by the fish commission that if you stand in the creek you are ok cause the landowner does not own the creek itself. because the creek is pa fish commission water. was anybody else ever told that.
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spoonchucker
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RE: posted property
2009/12/01 12:57:11
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Whoever told you that is full of crap, and probabley about being a PF&BC employee as well.
Get Informed, Get Involved, And Make A Difference. Step Up, or Step Aside The next time you say "Somebody should do something", remember that YOU are somebody. GL
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HD
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RE: posted property
2009/12/01 13:03:25
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no the guy was in uniform when he told me that. and in a commission truck
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spoonchucker
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RE: posted property
2009/12/01 13:04:04
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From the PF&BC website. What waters are considered to be private? Private waters are non-navigable rivers, streams and lakes. Who owns private waters? Title to the beds is held by the adjacent riparian landowner. If the adjacent riparian landowner owns property on only one side of a non-navigable waterway, he or she owns to the middle. When a non-navigable waterway flows through someone’s property, he or she owns the entire bed of the waterway. Can a riparian landowner prevent members of the public from fishing or wading in a non-navigable water? Yes. Can a riparian landowner prevent the public from boating or floating in a non-navigable water? No, because there’s a “navigation servitude†that gives the public the right to use the water for purposes of navigation only. This servitude does not extend to fishing. Can a riparian landowner string a cable across a non-navigable waterway? Yes, as long as: - the landowner owns property on both sides of the stream; and
- the cable doesn’t interfere with navigation.
However, from a liability perspective, it may not be a good idea.
Get Informed, Get Involved, And Make A Difference. Step Up, or Step Aside The next time you say "Somebody should do something", remember that YOU are somebody. GL
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RhnstnCowboy
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RE: posted property
2009/12/01 13:24:23
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My land, along a stocked trout stream, was open to fisherman for many years. A few years ago, the weekend after opening day of trout, someone ripped the doors off of my garage and stole more than $10,000 worth of quads, power tools, and other stuff. Some of it I was storing for my neighbors. Thats when the posted signs went up.
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hookedonsteels
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RE: posted property
2009/12/01 13:47:39
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Rhnstn, Believe me when I say this, I understand fully why you posted it. The saddest thing is for everyone else, lost access to a stream and the perpetrators probably weren't true fisherman. But I do understand it is not worth it to have strangers running through your property non-stop. It is just sad that it comes to that after you allowed fishing out of decency until you virtually got screwed. Probably never caught them either.
No working during fishing hours TTTTTTODAY JJUNYA
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young
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RE: posted property
2009/12/01 15:24:42
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It depends if the water is considered navigable or not.
In navigable waters you are okay as long as you stay in the stream / river bed. That's the case in many states. But in PA, only a handful of waterways are considered navigable. None of them are in Erie County (except Lake Erie itself).
In states like Montana, you are allowed to walk/float/fish within any waterway as long as you stay within the high water marks. Not only that, you are allowed to cross private property to reach any such water.
States like PA have a lot of catching up to do.
As for me, I go where I want and do what I feel. If someone wants me to leave "their" land, they'll have to physically remove me.
This land is your land, this land is my land
From California, to the New York Island
From the redwood forest, to the gulf stream waters
This land was made for you and me
As I was walkin' - I saw a sign there
And that sign said - no tress passin'
But on the other side .... it didn't say nothin!
Now that side was made for you and me!
In the squares of the city - In the shadow of the steeple
Near the relief office - I see my people
And some are grumblin' and some are wonderin'
If this land's still made for you and me.
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RE: posted property
2009/12/01 15:29:30
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Young,
If everyone applied your logic, morals and standards, we wouldn't have ANY water to fish.
And if you are going the theological route-ie God created this land for us- well, God made the garden of Eden for Adam and Eve, but when they didn't FOLLOW HIS RULES, HE kicked them out.
"Come, follow me," Jesus said, "and I will make you fishers of men." Matthew 4:19
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RhnstnCowboy
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RE: posted property
2009/12/01 15:39:22
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If someone wants me to leave "their" land, they'll have to physically remove me. For your family's sake, I hope you don't trespass on my land.
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RE: posted property
2009/12/01 16:59:50
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ORIGINAL: anadromous
wasted keystrokes.....Troll starving for attention.
ORIGINAL: fisherofmen376
Young,
If everyone applied your logic, morals and standards, we wouldn't have ANY water to fish.
And if you are going the theological route-ie God created this land for us- well, God made the garden of Eden for Adam and Eve, but when they didn't FOLLOW HIS RULES, HE kicked them out.
I'll second that....a TROLL.
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young
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RE: posted property
2009/12/01 17:13:04
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Massive fail.
Private property ≠individual means of consumption or people(!!).
Not surprising that I have to remind a reactionary like you of the latter. The South lost the war pal.
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RE: posted property
2009/12/01 18:09:00
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ORIGINAL: RhnstnCowboy
If someone wants me to leave "their" land, they'll have to physically remove me.
For your family's sake, I hope you don't trespass on my land.
lmao
your "game fish" is my bait.....got flathead!!
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RE: posted property
2009/12/01 18:16:48
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This all sounds fine and dandy to you now. However, if you ever make some money and purchase some land you will change your tune rather quickly. The only people who believe this way are those who can't afford or put in the effort to be able to afford such things. This is why only land owners should be able to vote!
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JustMatt
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RE: posted property
2009/12/01 19:18:24
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This is why only land owners should be able to vote--RPG
Are you for real. I'm sure that would be fine with all the non land owners. No more income, sales, or any other taxes, we just tax the land and the voting property owners. You must have missed history in high school.
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Rpgyard
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RE: posted property
2009/12/01 20:00:24
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How is that not what happens now?
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