help is my gear good enough?? and what else will i need

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2009/09/05 17:31:29 (permalink)

help is my gear good enough?? and what else will i need

hey i am a vermonter heading over for the first time to try to catch some salmon for a week , i just bought a 10 foot ugly stick big game pole bws1100 med/heavey 12-30 # and put a backing of 20 pound cajun line and 15 pound flurocarbon line on the front, on a okuma stratus reel and now am wondering what size split shot and or sinkers i need? any help with anything would be appreciated , ive fish for 20 pound and up pike alot but never the way i am readiung catching salmon
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    salmotrutta
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    RE: help is my gear good enough?? and what else will i need 2009/09/06 02:39:39 (permalink)
    Depends on flows. Just enough to get your offering to the fish in a natural drift in the zone. Too much & you'll be getting hung up on the bottom & losing lots of flies/bait/whatever you are using.

    I don't know much about gear fishing, but I would think a couple BB shot would be enough most places. That's all I ever use. Not that I'm a specialist, mind. I just enjoy the fishing for big fish!
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    RE: help is my gear good enough?? and what else will i need 2009/09/07 08:56:05 (permalink)
    Good morning,
    I carry a variety of shot sizes so I can readily change based on where I'm fishing.  I have BB alll the way up to #5.  I prefer faster water so I generally fish a 5 or 7.  Again, it depends on where you are.  Salmontrutta hit it right whith "natural drift."  That's the most important thing.  
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    RE: help is my gear good enough?? and what else will i need 2009/09/07 09:28:09 (permalink)
    split shot.........the majority of folks up there are chucking size 2 and size 3 split shot.........really hittem' hard.......nothing like a couple cannon balls on your line to make your drift better.........

    enter sarcasm--
     
    I missed the snagging days--thank goodness.......but every trip I usually get to see one guy getting hammered with his size 2 and size 3 split shot--if you are not wearing glasses up there you are nuts......ya know what, an athletic supporter might be a good idea too........I saw a guy get smacked in his manly parts........dropped like a ton of bricks.....seems neoprene waders didn't provide much protection from cannonballs.......the guy dropped and everyone near by lost it......all I heard was a loud THWAPPP  and some guy on the ground grabbing his ****........his buddies really gave it to him......
     
    The guy is either snagged on the bottom and pulling with all his might until the shot comes zinging back at him.......or he is cranking on a fish and the line breaks......again.....heavy split smacking someone.......  OUCH
    post edited by 2Bonthewater - 2009/09/07 11:36:52

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    dimebrite
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    RE: help is my gear good enough?? and what else will i need 2009/09/07 10:48:06 (permalink)
    definitely have a variety from bee bees to cannon balls.  i prefer to fish rolling deep white water for salmon when they're fresh and you need to be near the bottom but not all the way.  about 2 ft. off actually. so bigger shots are needed for this water..   but for long deep pools you're gonna need the bbs to present a natural floating presentation. and there's plenty of white water and deep pools to choose from. always be prepared for any situation.  you'll want a lighter ti[ppet in the slow deep water too.  maybe 8-12 lb. for slow pools depending on aggression of fish and clarity of water.  you'd be surprised at how line shy these fish get when they've seen a few hundred lines thrown in front of them.  for fast pocket water use 12-15 lb. depending on water level. good luck
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    RE: help is my gear good enough?? and what else will i need 2009/09/07 21:18:30 (permalink)
    thanks guys do you think my big water 10 foot ugly sticks overkill?

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    RE: help is my gear good enough?? and what else will i need 2009/09/08 02:42:33 (permalink)
    What it comes down to is no matter what you have they will go where they want for the first few minutes. Take that to the bank.
    I've caught a few Salmon on a Trout rod when my better suited rods blew up.
    I would think it may be a bit heavy. There are rods on here and in Pulaski that are suited for Salmon. Lots of people get noodle rods (parabolic).
    Take what you got right now & get a feel for what you personally will need. Lots of people to ask along the river & in the shops.
    I'd rather see you do that than buy something you may not be happy with later....
    And for Dogs sake make sure your reel is a good one. Plastic gears will be melted!

    Take plenty of pics.. I live like 5 hours from there & I like to see what the hell I'm missing out on!

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    RE: help is my gear good enough?? and what else will i need 2009/09/08 06:17:31 (permalink)
    For salmon, I have an Ugli-stix 8wt and 11wt (both 9') fly rods - 11wt definitely better, but 8wt more sporting!
     
    Also have Ugly-stix spinning rods for salmon. All very tough and reliable!
     
    Good reel with drag - a must! I use Okuma - not as pricey as some others!
     
    I also use braided line & swivel to leader (they will twist & turn as well as come out of the water) & just enough weight to bounce the bottom!
     
    Power & strength of salmon will amaze you!
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    RE: help is my gear good enough?? and what else will i need 2009/09/08 08:44:52 (permalink)
    awsome replys thanks again and i always have the camera, i do have a okuma stratus xts 65 holds310 yds of 15 pound test, guess my biggest concern is casting the beast with small weights but i have my smaller 8 foot uglysticks if i need to change out. i also have a 13 foot ugly stick fly rod and a flueger gold medalion reel i got for northerns in the spring but i think the reels not big enough, but i will bring it along ive seen on here i may need cleats or is that just for winter? i have my neopremes with regular water shoes or studs i guess, i have a big net and some wooly buggers and am tying some streamers and eggs with yarn that i found directions to on the net, anything im missing? just hope my knee holds up, i go for post op in boston va thursday, it feels great other then a big bump sticking out where one incision was, but at least i dont have the sinkers in there anymore or the 3 inch broken bone, oh and is the fishing good behind stoneys? im thinking of staying there or the salmon inn
     thanks again




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    RE: help is my gear good enough?? and what else will i need 2009/09/08 16:24:52 (permalink)
    stoneys is nice water, but it can be spotty and if you're not familiar, you can have fish porpussing around you but not hooking up at all.  i actually own 900 ft. of river front between stoney's and trestle.  long flat pools is most of the consistency. i'd say fish from the ball park downstream is best for salmon.  great salmon water all throughout in to the dsr.  dsr costs 30 bucks, but it's the best for this time of year.  i have a season pass myself so it's not such a strain.  but cleats are a defionite.  neoprenes, you might get a little hot.  especially if you start hooking fish.  i actually wet wade this time of year with stream cleets on wading boots.  13 ft. fly rod would be a good choice, maybe take it out after you get a feel of things and see how other people are doing it.  good luck. 
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    RE: help is my gear good enough?? and what else will i need 2009/09/09 01:15:42 (permalink)
    all i can say is thanks a million and am i there yet?

    lol:)

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