What weight rod for steelhead?

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2009/08/30 16:11:00 (permalink)

What weight rod for steelhead?

I've heard everything from 5wt to 9wt. I like to fish lightweight, but I like backbone. So, I guess I'm looking for a medium-fast rod? I've been looking at the 3 forks rods from Cabelas. I've used the 3wt version and loved it.

I guess my main question is, what is the lightest weight rod I should get but still have enough backbone to effectively land a steelie?
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    fcflyguy
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    RE: What weight rod for steelhead? 2009/08/30 16:15:03 (permalink)
    9ft6inch or 10 ft 7wt
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    RE: What weight rod for steelhead? 2009/08/30 16:42:05 (permalink)
    9 foot 6 wt is fine for Erie steelhead
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    RE: What weight rod for steelhead? 2009/08/30 19:57:10 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: McFishin

    I've heard everything from 5wt to 9wt. I like to fish lightweight, but I like backbone. So, I guess I'm looking for a medium-fast rod? I've been looking at the 3 forks rods from Cabelas. I've used the 3wt version and loved it.

    I guess my main question is, what is the lightest weight rod I should get but still have enough backbone to effectively land a steelie?


    9'6-10' 7 wt
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    RE: What weight rod for steelhead? 2009/08/30 20:42:43 (permalink)
    if you can go 10ft 7 wt do it!! 10 ft length is perfect for mending and if you fish erie you know you dont have the casting space needed.. i use a sage 9'6 7 wt and love it.. i have gone down to a 5 wt before.. but i broke 2 rods doing it
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    RE: What weight rod for steelhead? 2009/08/30 20:52:03 (permalink)
    i think the rod weight has alot to do with the time of year you are fishing them , early season (oct.)  when the water temps are higher and steelies metabolism is higher , they fight alot harder and run harder , maybe a 7-8 wt to beat em up a bit and not get all the knit wits who are standing elbow to elbow mad cause it is taking u a 1/2 to land a fish with a light rod , later in the year , (dec) when water temps are down and so is the steelies metabolism , and they reel in like a wet boot  and the streams are not ahole to elbow with people then a 5 wt rod is enough , just play em longer ! just my .02$
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    RE: What weight rod for steelhead? 2009/08/30 21:48:03 (permalink)
    the lightest to go and still have control
    9 foot  6 weight
    as already mentioned-make sure you buy a good reel

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    RE: What weight rod for steelhead? 2009/08/31 12:39:14 (permalink)
    thanks to all! After reading your suggestions I found a9'6" 6/7wt. Gonna put some wulf or rio line on it and it should do just fine...Probably a better rod for steel than my 2wt ..

    off topic, but speaking of, has anyone ever caught a steelie on a 2wt? 1wt?...
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    RE: What weight rod for steelhead? 2009/08/31 12:42:40 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: McFishin

    thanks to all! After reading your suggestions I found a9'6" 6/7wt. Gonna put some wulf or rio line on it and it should do just fine...Probably a better rod for steel than my 2wt ..

    off topic, but speaking of, has anyone ever caught a steelie on a 2wt? 1wt?...


    I got stupid and took my 2 WT to a small Steelhead Stream   Hooked up instantly with 2 and well  I never had a chance  I want to try it again but I will try a different stream this time  One with less wood around

     



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    RE: What weight rod for steelhead? 2009/08/31 12:51:50 (permalink)
    OK, those of oyu that fish with a 10 footer...why do you prefer it over a 9-foot rod? I was talking this over at my local fly shop, and mentioned wanting to get a 10-footer, and the owner advised against it. He's not the condescending type (it seems many fly shop people ARE the type to tell you "no thats not what you want...this here is what you want" and then totally ignore the item you came in to look at), but he just explained his opinion that 10-feet is basically more of a pain in the****than a help for him on most Erie streams. He added that he's had people come back to exchange 10-footers for 9 footers, but never the other way around. I have used a 9-foot noodle rod and a 9-foot fly rod on the tribs, and I really dont think the extra foot will make a HUGE difference one way or the other...but for those that have used both, what's your take?
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    RE: What weight rod for steelhead? 2009/08/31 13:19:29 (permalink)
    I have a 10'6'' wild river noodle that I build into a fly rod, just like the one Nagy sells.  It sees about 6 hours of use a season.  For one, it's too long, 2 its hard to fish around people with it, and three it just does not cast that good.....9 feet is fine for all of Erie because Erie is smAlL DuuD.  You don't need to send your fly on a 30 yard drift, more like 5 yards, so you don't need to continuously mend.  If you can mend with a 6' 2 wt, you can mend just as good with any length, the extra length really doesn't help that much.  But as you pointed out, 1 foot really doesn't make much of a difference.  Some like the longer rod to bottom bounce with as you can keep more line off of the water, but again the trade off....you can do almost the same thing with a 9 footer because you can throw your fly with your left hand across most of the places you are fishing. 

    I think it more or less boils down to personal preference, and fishing style.  Almost everyone casts different and fishes with different techniques.  Since your in that fly shop so much ask your guy to loan you a 10' demo rod and try it out, the most he can tell you is no.  If he doesn't oblige, let me know and Ill get you one to see if you like the extra length or not before you make a purchase.

    Again as stated on here, I think that 9'6" is a perfect medium for those looking for longer but not overkill in the rod department.
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    RE: What weight rod for steelhead? 2009/08/31 13:32:51 (permalink)
    For indicator fishing the extra foot makes a huge difference.  For streamers the 9' is probably better. 
     
    I use a 10' 7wt and have no issues 99% of the time with the rod length.  The extra length also gives more leverage for landing fish faster.
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    RE: What weight rod for steelhead? 2009/08/31 13:37:14 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: D-nymph

    For indicator fishing the extra foot makes a huge difference.  For streamers the 9' is probably better. 

    I use a 10' 7wt and have no issues 99% of the time with the rod length.  The extra length also gives more leverage for landing fish faster.


    I fail to see the connection.  Don't most people nymph with a shorter rod than do streamer fishing?  I know the rod I chuck streamers with is pushing 11ft.
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    RE: What weight rod for steelhead? 2009/08/31 13:45:44 (permalink)
    I like the 10 footers for several reasons. Mending line is easier, making it easier to control a fly on the swing. I do alot of high stick nymphing without indicators and the longer length lets me stay a little farther away from the fish. The extra leverage when fighting a fish is nice too. I used a 9' in the past but ever since I got the 10' it's my rod of choice for everyday steelie fishing.
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    RE: What weight rod for steelhead? 2009/08/31 14:30:16 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: Loomis

    ORIGINAL: D-nymph

    For indicator fishing the extra foot makes a huge difference.  For streamers the 9' is probably better. 

    I use a 10' 7wt and have no issues 99% of the time with the rod length.  The extra length also gives more leverage for landing fish faster.


    I fail to see the connection.  Don't most people nymph with a shorter rod than do streamer fishing?  I know the rod I chuck streamers with is pushing 11ft.


     
    Obviously, your rod is bigger than mine. 
     
    I like the longer rod for nymphing, I can keep more line OFF of the water, which gives me better contact with the flies and shot.  For me, that is the entire point of the 10' rod.
     
    I am also better casting a single handed streamer rod with a 9 footer than a 10 footer.  You might be different, who knows.
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    RE: What weight rod for steelhead? 2009/08/31 14:40:52 (permalink)
    hahaha nice bag over the head.  But yeah, I guess I am, but the analogy I was trying to make is with a 9 footer you can keep all the line off the water you need in any Erie tributary and still get an excellent drift...being such a rod freak im not opposed to using any length, I was just stating what works best in my personal preference.
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    RE: What weight rod for steelhead? 2009/08/31 14:50:55 (permalink)
    10 foot is absolutely not too long for the erie tribs, at least in my many trials and tribulations i've been through. 
    hell when i'm pinning i'm walking around with an 11'6" most of the time and still want more length

    the extra foot gives you many advantages, all of which have been outlined already.

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    RE: What weight rod for steelhead? 2009/08/31 14:59:42 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: Loomis

    I was just stating what works best in my personal preference.

     
    Same here, Mr. Big Rod.
     
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    RE: What weight rod for steelhead? 2009/09/10 14:53:49 (permalink)
    9 foot 2 piece 5 weight
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    RE: What weight rod for steelhead? 2009/09/10 15:06:14 (permalink)
    You can definitely get away with a 5.  Not the best choice with erie crowds.  But, it you want to go light, a 9' 6 is good.  Infact, that's what I use once the fish lose their juice or water around and below the 40* mark.  All around arguably best for erie, is a 10' 7 wt.   Great fun is fishing the skipper runs, with a 4 or 5 weight.  There are generally two skipper "runs" a season in Erie tribs.. the first cold spell in late November or early December and one at the end of March, beginning of April.   They come in and begin to sulk on the lower lower lower stretches.  There I told yinzers an Erie secret, and yinz thought there was none.  Not that skippers are terribly exciting, but they are on a 4 or 5 when most fish in the streams are beat up and the skippers are dimebright. 
    post edited by SilverKype - 2009/09/10 15:13:30

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    RE: What weight rod for steelhead? 2009/09/10 15:49:51 (permalink)
    Thanks for all the help guys. Ended up opting with a 9' 7/8wt. I was going to go for the 6wt or a 6/7wt but I figured the 7/8wt would be better for shallow water carp and slinging big streamers and poppers at big New River smallmouth down here so I went with it. I learned a lot from this thread though. Thanks!
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    RE: What weight rod for steelhead? 2009/09/13 20:48:54 (permalink)
    We fish everything, it all depends on the size of fly and wind. We fish 3 wts for half pounders and 10wts with heavy sink lines and big weighted flies. If you can only have one rod then my choice is a 8wt switch rod as wind, rain and flies will never be an issue. Lots of play, and not to big, easy to learn and easy to mend.

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    RE: What weight rod for steelhead? 2009/09/13 20:52:27 (permalink)
    i fish a 9'6"ft 6 or a 10 ft 7weight orvis zero g  only way to go
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