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2009/08/23 23:12:05 (permalink)

A few ties...

I just started tying not to long ago so forgive my crappy ties...

Was bored tonight and decided to mess around with some left over materials and the macro settings on the camera...

Constructive criticism is welcome







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    fishmonger
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    RE: A few ties... 2009/08/24 00:09:27 (permalink)
    They'll work. Keep practicing!

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    RE: A few ties... 2009/08/24 00:13:44 (permalink)
    I'm trying to start big and work my way to smaller flies... my problem is my eyes must be big cause I always seem to use to much material..
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    RE: A few ties... 2009/08/24 06:25:53 (permalink)
    Nice ties pxatim. The great thing about tying is that you never stop learning.

    "They say you forget your troubles on a trout stream, but that's not quite it..... you begin to see where your troubles fit into the grand scheme of things, and suddenly they're just not such a big deal anymore."

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    RE: A few ties... 2009/08/24 07:15:25 (permalink)
    Good-looking flies, Tim. As was said, they'll all catch fish, especially that bugger!

    One tip for any fly using zonker strips: when you tie them in at the bend of the hook, pull apart the fur, to seperate it at the tie-in point. That way you wont bind down any of the hair underneath your thread, and tying directly down on the hide will help it to bind down more securely. It'll also make the finished fly have a better look, both in finished appearance and action in the water, by eliminating the "gap" in the fur, created by binding it down under the thread. Looks like you made that adjustment between the chartreuse and the orange zonker.
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    RE: A few ties... 2009/08/24 07:19:48 (permalink)
    look good carp
    post edited by bonsai - 2009/08/24 07:20:57
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    RE: A few ties... 2009/08/24 07:36:09 (permalink)
    oh yea they will work and as said when tying becomes work to you
    it is no longer enjoyable. But welcome to fly tying
    where you walk into a shop with 40 bucks and walk out with another 20 put on the card. lol

    I didn't say these are the ten suggestions
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    RE: A few ties... 2009/08/24 08:42:57 (permalink)
    i usualy add a more fuller tail on my buggers. marabu will straighten and thin out when wet and i think a thicker tail gives more movement and makes the body look longer. i also add wire weight to the hook before winding the body. this beefs up the body and gets the bugger down deeper faster. i know you can use a split shot to get it deep but there is more chance of snagging with a shot.
    you got the right ideas and the ties look good. . ~dt

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    RE: A few ties... 2009/08/24 08:56:25 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: doubletaper

    i usualy add a more fuller tail on my buggers. marabu will straighten and thin out when wet and i think a thicker tail gives more movement and makes the body look longer. i also add wire weight to the hook before winding the body. this beefs up the body and gets the bugger down deeper faster. i know you can use a split shot to get it deep but there is more chance of snagging with a shot.
    you got the right ideas and the ties look good. . ~dt


    Good point on weighting the fly. It'll cast better too.
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    RE: A few ties... 2009/08/24 10:02:22 (permalink)
    Your flies aren't bad now, the more you tie the better they will look, especially the heads.  8/0 thread will give you a neater head, Uni thread, IMO is the best choice,  All the flies you posted will take erie sthd. Keep at it and please post your flies.
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    RE: A few ties... 2009/08/24 10:22:29 (permalink)
    The wooden thing in the background distracts from the flies.  Try using a piece of gray or light blue cardstock paper behind the fly when shooting it.
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    RE: A few ties... 2009/08/24 10:27:34 (permalink)
    yeah.. I was having a hard time keeping the camera steady also... with the macro settings it's really sensitive to any little movement. The third pic is really the only one that came out decent. I need some sort of rest.
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    RE: A few ties... 2009/08/24 11:08:25 (permalink)
    To reduce camera shake use a tripod or place camera on some sort of rest, even a stack of books will work. A tabletop tripod will work well and they are relatively inexpensive. Also, most cameras have a self-timer feature. Use it in conjunction with some sort of rest and that should take care of the "shakey" problem. Welcome to the world of fly tieing. In can become very addictive and also VERY expensive if your not carefull. Trust me, I know.

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    RE: A few ties... 2009/08/24 14:22:10 (permalink)
    You said it right Bigfoot. It is real addictive and can get expensive. I've got more materials than I know what to do with. And Fishinfool - you got it right too - I spent $50 at the fly shop the other day - only went in to buy some hooks!!!!! Came out with a bag full!! Keep at it Paxitim - it's a good way to pass the time - just keep the dog out of your tying area - especially if you have a labrador retriever!

    "They say you forget your troubles on a trout stream, but that's not quite it..... you begin to see where your troubles fit into the grand scheme of things, and suddenly they're just not such a big deal anymore."

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    RE: A few ties... 2009/08/24 14:31:57 (permalink)
    just keep the dog out of your tying area - especially if you have a labrador retriever!


    Mine hasnt figured out that hackle is tasty...yet. He did get a hold of a piece of marabou I dropped (he was laying at my feet. He chewed on it for a second and immediately spit it out. I guess it wasn't too good!
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    RE: A few ties... 2009/08/24 14:47:58 (permalink)
    Lucky you Cold. My lab got a hold of a grade two neck when I went upstairs the other day to get a beer. When I came down she was standing there with it in her mouth. I had it hanging outside on the clothsline drying for a bit. No real damage though but another five minutes it would have been toast.

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    RE: A few ties... 2009/08/24 14:51:06 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: steely34

    Lucky you Cold. My lab got a hold of a grade two neck when I went upstairs the other day to get a beer. When I came down she was standing there with it in her mouth. I had it hanging outside on the clothsline drying for a bit. No real damage though but another five minutes it would have been toast.


    Yeah, I really need to get myself a few plastic bins for hackle. Everything else fits neatly in drawers and other areas he cant get to, but the hackles are just on a shelf, where, with a little reach he can get them. (The goofball is growing like a weed! A week ago he couldnt reach the shelf!)
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    RE: A few ties... 2009/08/24 15:07:07 (permalink)
    i always started tying on small hooks.. esp for eggs and stuff.. if i got an egg to look ok on a size 18 then i could get them to look amazing on 12-14.. just my .02 .. keep practicing.. youll be amazed how fast you get better at tying.. i start tying in july.. i tie for a couple guys in the pittsburgh area who come up to fish erie.. so i spend all my time in july refreshing myself and by the time i get to there flies ive tied prolly 400-500 flies already so theirs look perfect
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    RE: A few ties... 2009/08/24 15:11:11 (permalink)
    lol cold.. you just wait till hes big.. my lab is 1 and 110lbs .. hes my mammoth.. lol.. and because of him i had to re-stock my entire fly room lol.. ill just say this that dog pooped a rainbow of egg yarn for a week!
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    RE: A few ties... 2009/08/24 16:11:37 (permalink)
    Those of you with pets, be careful.  They can hurt themselves and not realize it.  A buddy had a cat that ate most of a spool of thread.  They noticed it was acting funny, they took it to the vet.  The thread got all wrapped up in its intestines.  $2,000 operation to remove it and most of the cat's intestines.  The cat didn't survive.
     
     
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    RE: A few ties... 2009/08/24 20:46:24 (permalink)
    Oh wow...geez. We keep a pretty good eye on him here, and absolutely all of my tying stuff not on that one shelf is totally out of reach/inaccessible.

    But enough threadjacking! Tim, let's see some more flies!

    (btw...tying on a Sunrise?)
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    RE: A few ties... 2009/08/24 23:08:34 (permalink)
    Sat down again tonight for a little bit when I got the little man to sleep. Used a dark folder I had laying around for a back drop and some phone books for a rest. Whatever works right...

    Got a little carried away with the marabou... I started to low on the feather.



    DT this one's for you

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    RE: A few ties... 2009/08/24 23:09:36 (permalink)
    Cold... yes it's an old Sunrise... it was my dad's and it just feels right tying on it and not some new fancy schmancy vise. It does the job for now.
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    RE: A few ties... 2009/08/25 07:00:44 (permalink)
    :) Thought it looked familiar. I spent my first year tying on a Sunrise. It will do everything you ask it to in sizes from about 6-14, bigger or smaller than that, it starts to struggle, but that's your ideal size range for most trout flies.

    Only reasons I switched were that it didnt like holding 2X fine dry fly hooks well, and on nights where I tied a dozen or more, my thumb started to get sore where I pushed on the little tab to close it! Good workhorse vise though, especially for what they charge for them. And being your dad's, that one has special significance.
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    RE: A few ties... 2009/08/25 08:06:40 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: pxatim

    DT this one's for you



     

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    RE: A few ties... 2009/08/25 09:26:00 (permalink)
    Tim, those are better pics, don't you think?
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    RE: A few ties... 2009/08/25 09:42:02 (permalink)
    Much better! Thanks for the pointers..
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    RE: A few ties... 2009/08/25 11:52:12 (permalink)
    One more suggestion for ya, it appears as if you are tying the hackle in from the base at the bottom of the fly.  I generally tie the hackle in by the tip, it will help maintain the desired slight rearward taper on the hackle, as well as make it easier to complete a neat head.  Also, if you have some good long hackles it should help you get more flies out of each hackle.  This is merely a preference of mine, it is certainly fine to tie the hackles in base first.  I just figured I would share what works for me.  Keep at it, your flies are looking good.
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    RE: A few ties... 2009/08/25 12:27:58 (permalink)
    Good advice esox, when I started tying in my hackle like that, my buggers started to look much neater.

    Tim, if you decide to try it that way, run your fingers along the stem against the slant of the feather fibers, to pull them backward, all except the tip of the feather that you're holding in your hand. Tie in at the point where the fibers change direction from their natural position to swept back, it'll give you a secure connection by allowing you to place wraps directly on the stem of the feather.
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    RE: A few ties... 2009/08/25 13:09:45 (permalink)
    On your chart. rabbit/ pink marabou fly consider substituting pink or orange schlappen for the collar, tie it in tip first, 4-5 turns.  4-6 strands of pearl krystal flash along the rabbit strip would add to the looks, fish appeal of the fly as well.
     
    Schlappen is very good for collars on larger sthd flies but can be hard to find locally.  two good places to buy it on line are flyfishusa.com, Welches, Ore. and deschutesangler.com.
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