Hazard to navigation

Here's the PFBC response to the hugh trees sticking 5ft out of the water in 30fow N of the marina The heavy flooding from last week has subsided although with all the tribs dramatically over flowing their banks ,the debris field that spewed from the mouths was significant. Large trees have been spotted drifting all along the lake shore, many of them significant in size and a few bobbing vertically. Walnut Creek and the USCG office have receive numerous calls and requests for removal. The reality here is that we simply have had an act of nature and these agencies nor any other agency hold no specific responsibly for cleaning up the Lake nor are the boats necessarily equipped for this type of operation. Should any agency assume responsibility for any type of debris cleanup a case could be made if every piece of debris in the lake was not salvaged...obviously an impossible task. Their answer is keep a keen eye out. Are they freaking kidding me??? They won't do anything until someone gets implalled on them causing death or very serious injury.

... we simply have had an act of nature 
 
... nor are the boats necessarily equipped for this type of operation....
 

 
sounds reasonable to me
 
 
 
Relayer...
 
how about you and i petion the coast guard to remove all the salt from the oceans...
it messes up gear and tastes icky
and maybe make it heated for when i want to go swimming
 
while we are at it... wouldn't it be nice to keep the lake free of ice all winter

That reminds me of the people who fought for Dimple Rock to be dynamited. Why not just dynamite every boulder in the Yough, so we can have a nice placid flatwater stream that people of all ages and abilities can enjoy? Its not fair that running that stream is limited to people who know what they are doing.

ORIGINAL: BIGSLICK

No, but I do think it was the coast guards responsibility to mark the hazards with a buoy....They mark shallow water hazards, they mark no wake zones, why can't they mark hazards that are hard to see for boaters?

 
Because no wake zones and shallow water areas are permanent.
 
Floating storm debris is not.
 
You can't be serious?

It's a cruel world out there be careful in your little part of it.

ORIGINAL: BIGSLICK

ORIGINAL: Frenchy

It's a cruel world out there be careful in your little part of it.

Ha....I hope you smash a tree with ur boat

What!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  How could you wish that on anybody

Not caring and hoping/wishing are 2 different things  

I have not seen the debris but here's my suggestion... like we did for Walnut and Elk, why doesn't a group of us get together and go out there and bring them in... I'm sure it sounds a lot easier than said... or at least mark them some how.  I don't have a boat and I still would hate to see someone damage theirs, but instead of debating here, why don't you go out and take care of it yourself.  If you need help, let me know, I'd be glad to help out.  I just think too many ppl complain about things instead of taking action themselves.  they play the blame game.. it's your fault..blah blah blah... instead of being motivated to take the intiative to do it themselves.
 
Ok, sorry, I'm off my soap box.
 
 

ORIGINAL: carcus1211

I have not seen the debris but here's my suggestion... like we did for Walnut and Elk, why doesn't a group of us get together and go out there and bring them in... I'm sure it sounds a lot easier than said... or at least mark them some how.  I don't have a boat and I still would hate to see someone damage theirs, but instead of debating here, why don't you go out and take care of it yourself.  If you need help, let me know, I'd be glad to help out.  I just think too many ppl complain about things instead of taking action themselves.  they play the blame game.. it's your fault..blah blah blah... instead of being motivated to take the intiative to do it themselves.

Ok, sorry, I'm off my soap box.
 
Actually, I did pick up some logs the first Saturday I was out after the flood. They weren't that big, maybe 3 inches in diameter, but they were prop busters.... The log in question was about 14 inches in diameter and I don't have the gear for it. I also got on the radio whenever I saw a hazard....

I think the coast guard should get in my boat and buckle up my little life vest to make sure I'm safe, and check to make sure I have enough fuel.  If they don't and I die, there would be questions about why the Coast Guard didn't do anything at the launch...

ORIGINAL: BIGSLICK

ORIGINAL: carcus1211

I have not seen the debris but here's my suggestion... like we did for Walnut and Elk, why doesn't a group of us get together and go out there and bring them in... I'm sure it sounds a lot easier than said... or at least mark them some how.  I don't have a boat and I still would hate to see someone damage theirs, but instead of debating here, why don't you go out and take care of it yourself.  If you need help, let me know, I'd be glad to help out.  I just think too many ppl complain about things instead of taking action themselves.  they play the blame game.. it's your fault..blah blah blah... instead of being motivated to take the intiative to do it themselves.

Ok, sorry, I'm off my soap box.

 

Actually, I did pick up some logs the first Saturday I was out after the flood. They weren't that big, maybe 3 inches in diameter, but they were prop busters.... The log in question was about 14 inches in diameter and I don't have the gear for it. I also got on the radio whenever I saw a hazard....

 
All you would really need is a long rope or chain to drag the tree in shallow.... right?  I'm not talking about an underwater chainsaw...just something to bring them in and beach them

Maybe if it happened to them coming out of the channel they would cry to the coast gaurd about why they didn't mark the hazard...

Which is precisely what they're trying to avoid.

why can't they mark hazards that are hard to see for boaters?

If they hit something, shame on them. Especially a tree sticking 5 feet out of the water...

Cant have it both ways! If it's so easy to spot that 5' tree, why do they need to buoy it? If it's so hard to see, why would it be shame on them?

Basically, if they start marking hazards, where does it stop? The minute someone whacks an unmarked piece of debris, they'll be whining like a bunch of FishErie users complaining that they missed that one. This way, they're putting the onus on the boaters to take a little responsibility.

ORIGINAL: RELAYER


EXCUSE ME for being concerned about someone getting hurt.NOT EVERYONE KNOWS it's there.

 
i must have confused your "concern" with whining
 
 
if they are "sticking 5ft out of the water" as you put it...
i would think any injuries and/or losses would be chalked up to natural selection

WTF?  I can't believe some of this garbage. 
 
What does the Coast Guard and our Erie Stamp money have anything to do with eachother #1?
 
#2  Do you even know what the responsibilities of the Coast Guard are?  Low on their priority list is ensuring fishing boats coming in and out of marinas have no obsticles in their way.  It's your job and priority to operate your vessel as safely and cautiously as you can.  Not theirs. 
 
Every horse in your engine does not need to be used....especially when close to shore anyway.  As for open water you really think the Coast Guard should search the entire lake for debris to remove?  There have been warnings for weeks after the flooding to watch out for debris in the lake.  What part of that is not understood? 

This would solve the prob.