Traditional Planer Boards vs Otter Boat?

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2009/06/29 13:46:49 (permalink)

Traditional Planer Boards vs Otter Boat?

I run planers that I made out of Cedar (Plans on the net) and I had them dive in rough water for the first time the other day. Just wondering if anyone has used the otter boats made by Big Jon and if they are worth the investment or not. Pro's and Con's...... Thanks in advance.



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    RE: Traditional Planer Boards vs Otter Boat? 2009/06/29 14:20:17 (permalink)
    I had the otter boats...don't buy them for Erie fishing, they can't handle waves over 2 ft.  If you are fishing in calm water, they work well.

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    RE: Traditional Planer Boards vs Otter Boat? 2009/06/29 14:41:44 (permalink)
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    I had the otter boats...don't buy them for Erie fishing, they can't handle waves over 2 ft.  If you are fishing in calm water, they work well.

     
    That's generally not the case on erie...Rough water is common.....Big Jon's website said that they are superior for rough water...I would believe someone who has used them rather than the manufacturer.



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    RE: Traditional Planer Boards vs Otter Boat? 2009/06/29 14:43:44 (permalink)
    Man I have heard both sides of Otter Boats....
     
    Friend of mine runs a Charter out of Oak Harbor, Ohio and loves his claims you can pull them in 6ft seas...
     
    I really like the look of the Amish Outfitters traditional board...Claims of how hard they pull kinda make me a little leary of running them off my hardtop, but I may give it a try...Its also nice to accompy your boards with a shock cord to prevent the surges from getting the best of them and your tow line.
     
    If you are having them dive you might have out too much line and have a weird angle of your tow line going down to your board....If your only fishing a couple guys I never saw much use for them and have been very successful without the use of planer boards...However, if your fishing the shallow water or trolling waters in the western basin I have found they are almost a necessity on certain days. 
     
    I myself am going to get back into using planer boards simply because Im going have enough deck space to effectively run them.  Not saying its going to be my go to tactic, but its nice to have it in reserve..

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    RE: Traditional Planer Boards vs Otter Boat? 2009/06/29 14:47:32 (permalink)
    Big Woody's = Meat Run!
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    RE: Traditional Planer Boards vs Otter Boat? 2009/06/29 14:59:35 (permalink)
    Maybe I did something wrong but the Otter boards would never give me a tight line, especially in waves over 2 ft.  The "normal pull" Cypress Amish Outfitter boards run hard!  Nice tight line, but man did they put stress on my planer mast mount.  Frank from Amish Outfitters said his hardest pulling boards would pull my Big John mast right off.

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    RE: Traditional Planer Boards vs Otter Boat? 2009/06/29 15:01:19 (permalink)
    Are the amish outfitters a different kind of wood or something? Are they much heavier? Why do they pull harder?



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    RE: Traditional Planer Boards vs Otter Boat? 2009/06/29 15:09:56 (permalink)
    I am not sure, better to ask Frank, but the cypress boards do pull hard.  I would think a hardtop such as CB's would work great.  My boat is only 19.5 ft, with the mast, just too much pull for my comfort.  I was using the standard seat mount on my bow.  I could have probably figured something out, but with my size of boat I just went to inline boards.  The AO hardest pulling board is some type of plastic, but I never gave them a try.

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    RE: Traditional Planer Boards vs Otter Boat? 2009/06/29 16:28:55 (permalink)
    I think they are just tested boards...you can make boards out of pretty much any type wood or plastic...The kicker is where the eye is mounted, how they are balanced, how far you let them out, and the angle the line goes to the board, how fast you pull them...that really reflects how they run...Alot of physics in planer boards and trolling in general...Generally speaking you want one that tows tight on turns...
     
    I dont want the cypress ones just the traditional unfinished redwoods be plenty enough for my purposes...
     
    $159 for the set...probaly well worth a try...

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    RE: Traditional Planer Boards vs Otter Boat? 2009/06/29 17:26:20 (permalink)
    Made mine out of cedar then painted them flo orange run great but like CB said really don't need them dipsys will load the cooler
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    RE: Traditional Planer Boards vs Otter Boat? 2009/06/29 22:55:14 (permalink)
    I don't know...I have been banging them off of planers with plugs...When I go deep I use riggers and dipsies though...



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    RE: Traditional Planer Boards vs Otter Boat? 2009/06/30 08:09:11 (permalink)
    ive caught plenty of walleyes in 20ft-30ft of water off dipsys back 60-90ft...walleyes are far from boat shy...If you want to run 8-12 rods, flatlined plugs, or jets you need boards...
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    RE: Traditional Planer Boards vs Otter Boat? 2009/06/30 20:44:42 (permalink)
    Cb Its all boards from here out since now you have room to run them with the dipsy program!
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    RE: Traditional Planer Boards vs Otter Boat? 2009/06/30 22:24:08 (permalink)
    Tried these last week on a friends boat and bought my pair a few days later!  They are SWEEEEET!!! NO MAST, just a half of a rod and a small reel. ALWAYS stays upright, and if flips will come right back up, only 14", stow away easy and helped me land 18 walleyes in a few hours over weekend!!!
     
    http://www.fortunecharters.com/PAUL'S%20PLANERS.htm
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    RE: Traditional Planer Boards vs Otter Boat? 2009/06/30 23:01:00 (permalink)
    Dublvision Im a little confused how those work...They run off a fishing rod with 150lb test???
     
    Standard Dipsy setup is like $100+the line.  A big jon reel for your hardtop is like $80 bucks with the line and the swivel...
     
    They look interesting...But for $89 i dunno....Id like to see them in action...

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    RE: Traditional Planer Boards vs Otter Boat? 2009/07/01 00:02:55 (permalink)
    Huh....Never seen them before...I am sure you can run them off of a mast or hardtop....Says in the description to run them off of a rod so????  I wonder how they work in rough water??? And if they drag when your pulling 4-6 deep divers on 1 side?



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    RE: Traditional Planer Boards vs Otter Boat? 2009/07/01 00:08:22 (permalink)
    Yes half a rod, I use small daiwa 27 reel. 130lb power strike.  They work, they pull nice, no need for MAST, planer board line $$, boards.
     
    Just need rod holders around midship one on each side. 
    You can acutally throw these boards in the water as far as you can and they will land the right way.
     
    For $90. you get boards and bungees, find an old rod or two laying around and you have your planer board set up. 
     
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    RE: Traditional Planer Boards vs Otter Boat? 2009/07/01 00:10:37 (permalink)
    They can be seen at a tackle store in Erie.
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    RE: Traditional Planer Boards vs Otter Boat? 2009/07/01 00:13:24 (permalink)
    check out this link for good info and pics/testimonials about boards
     
    http://www.attheoak.com/rip/PaulsPlaners.html
     
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    RE: Traditional Planer Boards vs Otter Boat? 2009/07/01 00:13:33 (permalink)
    Which store???? Also, do you get both sides for $90?



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    RE: Traditional Planer Boards vs Otter Boat? 2009/07/01 09:36:14 (permalink)
    I used these boards 2 weeks ago and they do run good. Pull very nice and are Compact so they dont take up alot of deck space. We ran them off a hardtop mounted planer reel. and ran med dipsy's off them with no problems. A Charter Capt. from Lake Ontario brought them down. Seem to be well made/designed.
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    RE: Traditional Planer Boards vs Otter Boat? 2009/07/01 11:24:42 (permalink)
    Could you load them up with dipsys though??
     
    Id like to see them with my own eyes and use them prior to any purchase...

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    RE: Traditional Planer Boards vs Otter Boat? 2009/07/01 11:30:38 (permalink)
    CB...I have never ran dipsies off of planers....How deep do you have to set the line in the clips? What size dipsies?   I have ran jets and many brands of deep diving plugs, but never dipsies... Do you use rubberbands or???



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    RE: Traditional Planer Boards vs Otter Boat? 2009/07/01 12:09:11 (permalink)
    You run Bands off boards with dipsys and you cant use big dipsys either 0 or 3/0...Clips and super lines do not mix very well...

    Usually just a shower curtain clip rubber band doubled over the line and away it goes...

    Lots of guys I have ran charters with in the past used to love running 30 jets with spoons and wire line off the boards or plugs and wire off the boards back 300ft+...The wire weight pulls em down so they can get 40-55ft of depth out of their board rods to get em down to the fish...I always hated those rods.....I dont know what alot of these guys use on their planer boards in this area, but im not into running boards with wire lines...

    Early in the season they are great for plugs and 20-30 jets, but once those fish go as deep as they did last season (sitting on the bottom in 60-70ft+ of water) I dont really have a good plan on getting planer board lines down to em.  Couple fish off the boards at that point just shortens your day and hour or so...But they can be a pain in the butt to run in rougher waters...I havent found a board that runs great...Im wanting to try the Amish Outfitter ones...

    In western basin we run boards with 20 jets back 80-150ft with little spoons...Crush walleyes on em...

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    RE: Traditional Planer Boards vs Otter Boat? 2009/07/01 12:17:25 (permalink)
    Maybe it will be like a couple years ago and there is some that stay in the 40ft mark...I hit them all year long within a couple miles of shore 2 years ago using planers and plugs/30jets pulling meat and spoons....
     
    When I go out deep i use riggers and dipsies...don't even mess with the planers than....
     
    We will see...Last year I was catching them in 18-26 for the most part of June and then they moved out...???? Didn't do to well in close this year...But I found them now...and they aren't that far...



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    RE: Traditional Planer Boards vs Otter Boat? 2009/07/01 20:49:31 (permalink)
    We ran 2  med. dipsy's off one side  nevr ran more than 2. And yes we use rubber bands off the board lines. Its alot easier than trying to snap the line out of the release when you hook into something small. if you are dragging something small a quick snap of the rod and the little weight that is on the end of the line snaps the rubber band.
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    RE: Traditional Planer Boards vs Otter Boat? 2009/07/01 21:16:19 (permalink)
    go to GREAT LAKES TACKLE SHOP.com its on EAST 12th street.
     
    They have sets for $90, a small price to pay considering in-lines are $30 each!!
     
    They have lead/weight embedded in wood on one side and sealed back off.  I would of had to see them run to believe they would work. 
     
    CB, i actually laughed when I saw them on the floor of the boat the one morning.
     
    Now I laugh about having to climb somewhere on boat to reel in boards, NO MORE, just pick up half/rod and reel that little bugger in just like a fish!!!!
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