Non Res. $40 to $70??????

OUCH! I only buy one to fish about 200 yards across NY line on the lake! Not this year...Those humps won't see me this year!

This link states $20 increase. Seems to be the only "real" proposal I could find. Other sites didn't have any actual proposals. http://lakeontariooutdoors.com/latest-news/reynolds-game-farm-injunction.html
 
$20 is a fifty percent increase. Still pretty steep....

The NYS gov't is a complete farse and that jackass gov. is going to ruin whats left of this sad state. they are taking federal stimulus funds which is supposed to start up building projects and put people to work. instead they are using it to cover their **** and put it toward the 1.3billion short fall in the state budget, a budget which they don't know how to manage. Except for $4,000 hookers and high priced carpets along with large raises.
Oh man here i am talking stinkin politics..... yea it smells fishy..
 
Oh , the license increase is still proposed, so watch that one get passed. Even ray charles could see that coming (sorry)..

 Get rid of the blind man and put back in place the porno star. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eWEfnhWbow

Anybody try the new shimano composite  yet? http://www.voltaeus.com/explore.php

Yeah a small increase wouldn't be bad should the money be put to good use supporting park wildlife management/stocking programs and similiar programs.. God only knows we need funding riverbed embankment /bridge maintainance from global warming weather patterns. I see on this site three record stage floods in three years check this out! from 2001 to 2006 http://nwis.waterdata.usgs.gov/ny/nwis/peak?site_no=01420500&agency_cd=USGS&format=html this is just one example. We need better management so the money is used wisely and not filling some blind madoffs with deep pockets.  

Pa. charges non-res 70$, what's the problem?

Wader, I agree that states should be reciprical on their non-resident licenses. How about 2X what a resident pays? A junior res. and non-res, 16-18yrs?

This is what's going to hurt me. It's going to cost about $120 EXTRA each year (AVG) to take family/other kids fishing. I really feel they ar not concerned about non-res. buying a license. NY has the market locked up for big fish in the northeast and they know it. What choices do we as fishermen have? Go to the Canadian side or Lake Michigan?

BTW I also think the PA. Non-res. is too high. PA. needs to get funding for our hunting and fishing programs from general revenues like other states. We sportsmen are paying for everyone's wildlife/clean waters benefit. Our two agencies recieve ZERO-Zilch! from general funds. That's another pallet of worms to open...

As far as "a bunch of NY'ers whinning about it", How many Ny'ers come to PA. for fishing Erie compared to PA. residents going to fish LO? There's a heck of a lot more PA. res. going north.  Take a look in the marina parking lots where there's charter boats, campgrounds/hotels, food establishments, tackle shops, gas stations, driftboat launches. There's many out of state plates there contributing to the local economies. How is this increase if it goes thru going to affect those businesses? Your going to have your diehards that will pay no matter what the license costs, but, there will be a drop off of sales which is less tourism $$$ spread out to the local economies. I have friends than run charters. They're great guys and run class act charters. They said to me they get about 75% of business from non-residents. (not just PA., but from the whole NE.) How is it going to affect them? They're very worried and rightfully so. Last year with the gas prices going sky high, their trips and profits were down. Will the increase do the same again to them?

NY has many more miles of great lake shoreline (deeper too) and river systems to support a great fishery and diversity of Salmonids. No doubt about it. I've been fishing upstate for over thirty years and love the trips I/we have taken. The increase in everything adding up is definately going to limit our trips.

Why more people are not voicing their concerns on this board is beyond me. These boards are pretty dead until Salmon season, maybe most aren't aware.

Winds are a blowing in Oswego... nice wave action today! Calling for 10-13ft. http://lighthouse.selfip.org:81/Jview.htm
 
Prioised License Fee Schedule


Resident Licenses


License / Permit Type
Current Fee
Proposed Fee


Conservation Legacy
$76
$96

Super Sportsman
$68
$88

Sportsman
$37
$47

Sportsman (Sr. 70+)
$5
$10

Small and Big Game
$19
$29

Fishing
$19
$29

Fishing (Sr. - 70+)
$5
$5

Fishing (Blind)
$0
$0

Deer Management Permit
$0
$10

Military Disability
$5
$5

Bow Hunting
$16
$21

Bow Hunting (Sr. 70+)
$0
$5

Bow Hunting (Jr.)
$9
$9

Muzzleloading
$16
$21

Muzzleloading (Sr. 70+)
$0
$5

Small Game
$16
$25

Junior Hunting
$5
$5

Turkey Permit
$5
$10

Trapping
$16
$21

Trapping (Sr. 70+)
$0
$5

Trapping (Jr.)
$6
$6

7-day Fishing
$12
$15

1-day Fishing
$15
$5

Lifetime Licenses


License / Permit Type
Current Fee
Proposed Fee


Sportsman (age 0- 4)
$300
$380

Sportsman (age 5-11)
$420
$535

Sportsman (age 12-69)
$600
$765

Sportsman (age 70+)
$50
$65

Small and Big Game
$350
$535

Fishing (age 0-69)
$300
$460

Fishing 70+
$50
$65

Trapping
$300
$395

Bow Hunting
$180
$235

Muzzleloading
$180
$235

Non-Resident Licenses


License / Permit Type
Current Fee
Proposed Fee


Super Sportsman
$250
$280

Big Game
$110
$140

Bow Hunting
$110
$140

Bow Hunting (Jr.)
$9
$9

Muzzleloading
$110
$140

Bear
$30
$50

Small Game
$55
$85

Junior Hunting
$5
$5

Turkey

$30
$50

Trapping
$255
$310

Fishing
$40
$70

7-Day Fishing
$25
$35

1-Day Fishing
$15
$15

Conservation Patron
$12
$12
 

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That is exactly my point.
With the fishing so much better (which is paid for out of license fees) here, how is it so bad that NY wants to charge as much as a state with a lesser fishery charges?
That old argument about  the revenues gained by out of staters never washed with me.
Some lakefront motels,eateries and bait&tackle shops are making good money and paying a small % in increased taxes, but the money that is needed to maintain the fishery is coming from the general public (license buyers) and is far more than the taxes paid by those few people making money off the fishing.
A few other things that the fishery has brought are more litter, snaggers, and a law against fishing the tribs at night because of drunken latenight loud, peeing in people yards idiot. (the largest % of which were out of staters).

maybe they should start paying attention to people brining fish in backwards, sideways and issue fines. Is it true people dont have to have the license visible like pa does? guess youll get alot of people fishing with out license now.
 
sorry to go off the topic but wader did your wife get the good news from the red cross about all the cuts they are taking away from us?

i had a guy i fished with you name it it went into the water along the road in the parking lot , he was a real litter bug and would let you pay his way fishing that was good of him did you notice i said use to fish with ,as far as i know it hes moved on he now fishes the nut you will know him to see him hes the one tossing chicken bones down stream

on beer bad idea for those who love beer just another nail in a coffin ny has to be kidding itself that a raise of so much will not hurt them they are wrong i say lower that cost and see how much more will come in say 2weeks of free fishing for the whole us how many people will take that opp i would fish in pa or in ny and im bringing a truck that likes gas a boat that will suck some down a pillow lookin for a motel bed a gut that will want a good meal and some lures i have not seen at home or dam that last fish spooled me i need new line mmmm the impact and if i smoked ill need a pack or two wow i drop around 200 bucks for the weekend fishing the bar in ny and thats a overnight thing ill go to mish

Just buy a fishing license...seriously...and if you aren't b/c it's $70, don't complain about it and cause a rant.
As far as I see it, there aren't many people that fish the NY tribs anyways (other than peak king runs)...so if lesser people buy a license because of it, there will be more rooms on the streams...and the DEC will still make up the difference in license holders due to the change in prices.


PS: Nonresident fishing license for my friends that moved out of PA and still fish here and Erie tribs cost them $65 i think this year....so PA prices aren't much favorable

...does anyone wanna go fishing?

That's why I always enjoy my trip to visit family in Indiana.  Non-resident annual fishing license is $35, plus $11 for trout/salmon stamp.  This is a real bargain. 
Fish Port of Indiana from breakwater and got lots of action in Spring with Steelhead, Coho and Brown Trout. 
Go back in July for Super Steelies (Skeemania) and Smallmouth Bass/Perch/Walleyes with plenty of action.  Could also return in Fall for Chinook, but don't always have the financial resources.  Plenty of action and plenty of room to fish without being crowded.

Eagle Ed

You're right 79 it's all them liberal dems fault that there may be an increase. Of course I think the price for a resident license went from $9.50 to $19.00 under Pataki after staying at the lower price under Coumo.
Times and circumstances change and all the IN at the time can do is roll with them or get rolled under by them.