Summer on the Juniata

This summer, I have the opportunity to do a week long camping trip canoeing/kayaking down the Juniata from Raystown to...well, I'm not sure.  However far we get in a week's time.  While nothing's set in stone, it'd take an awful lot to get me to pass up this trip.

So, my question for you guys is this: for a week of fishing the Juniata in June, what kind of flies would you recommend?

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Juniata River of sorrows. I just finished reading this book. Guy floated the entire J smallie fishin, wasn't fly fishing but it gives great insight on fishing spots and boating trouble spots. 1 chapter is about a stretch of river and the next goes into history etc. of the area. The history went a little far for my liking at times but the book was a good read. I stumbled upon it while looking for info on floating the J myself.

 
As long as he is not your scout leader.
 
Mostly smallies in June. When I have been there I have seen plenty of Carp as well as a few Muskies. Never caught a trout in the J. The Lil J as everyone knows is a different story.

I've done well with the Clousers on the J, as well as many other smalljaw waters.  I have been looking for a good hellgrammite pattern for years, but to no avail.  Nothing seems to work like the real thing... 

red eyes on those clousers. 

Depends on how deep you're fishing.   Most places a floating line will do.  Most of the areas from raystown to lewistown, a floating line will be fine.  A sinker can benefit but it's a pain changing.  Since you'll be canoeing, I'd stick with a floater. 

Almost forgot: Any crappie/perch to speak of in the J?

If you get too far down the "J" there is some very fast water down in the narrows below Lewistown.  Some of the best places for smallies and the occasional walleye is on the slack side of some of the rocks crossing the river.  Be careful!  Some places the "J" cna go from ankle deep to holy carp! in just a few feet.
    Smallie, walleye, cats, and if you look carefully at the points where small spring streams feed in: trout.  It's also nice to get out and explore some of those unaccessible side creeks for trout.  And for them just tie up some mosquitos or sow bugs and have a blast.  Stay off the islands and watch out for Joe-no-shoulders.  There used to be some rather good pot crops being grown on some of the islands. (but that's only hearsay)  LOL!

Scuds, hares ear nymphs, any thing small 14-16 and dull in color.  A small glue egg or very small yarn egg will do wonders.

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Stay off the islands and watch out for Joe-no-shoulders.  There used to be some rather good pot crops being grown on some of the islands. (but that's only hearsay)  LOL!

 
Hey keep of my island intended for "medicial" research!

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    Be sure you drift the Raystown branch from the dam down.  2 years ago it was loaded with smallies and nice browns. esp about 1/2 way to the main Juniata next to the cliffs.  Fish a black  bug fairly deep.  My buddy tied something he called a muddler leech, muddler body with about a 2" black leech tail.    Really effective.  Since I don't tie I have no idea what the thing really was. 

where are you camping.  most of the junie is private property, even the islands.  so ask for permission before setting up camp.

Corn and a loaf of bread......

Not unless you provide me with a tying pattern for it.  Really, though, I dont want to catch the types of fish normally caught with that kind of bait...they're...like pigs with gills...

My buddy tied something he called a muddler leech, muddler body with about a 2" black leech tail.    Really effective.  Since I don't tie I have no idea what the thing really was.

I've got a pretty good idea of what he had going on...what size?

especially around where stocked streams dump into the river

I'll have to read up on which streams those are and where they're located...

Indy is right about the varying depths. We wade with shorts and sneakers, and I have had to swim for it more than once. You can also pick up some nice walleyes. The seem to take white stuff more often.

Good stuff!  I'd imagine the walleye hang near the bottom of deep holes, and along the cliffs?

It's looking like Buggers, zonkers, and clousers in black, white, and olive, with special colors for certain ones mixed in (chart clousers, maybe brown/orange buggers...blue & pink zonkers...maybe some purple).  Also a good, fast to tie crayfish pattern.  Sizes from 10 or 12 up to about 4.

This might be the first trip that I bring my tying stuff along!

Take a lot of bug repellant!

Ugh...maybe I'll look for some of those bog repellent shirts for a decent price.  I hate using DEET based repellent both for health and fishing reasons, not to mention that it's murder on a fly line.  If I'm in a canoe, I might keep a little coffee can with some smoldering embers for a bit of smoke, but I dont want that on a 'yak with me!

I must be part bug, I hate S^3 as much as they do!  Odd you should mention the old spice, tho, as the guy organizing this trip swears by aqua velva for bug repellent.  In my experience, it works  for dissuading mosquitos from biting, but not much else.

I think what I really need is some of your medicine!

M^2, Any recipe?  or just pics?  Maybe I'll tie a half-dozen of each, just in case I end up on a school of the uglies...