Allegheny Canoe Trip, Kinzua to Tionesta

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rkirkwo1
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2007/06/11 12:45:39 (permalink)

Allegheny Canoe Trip, Kinzua to Tionesta

I'm planning a canoe trip starting 6/16 from the Kinzua to Tionesta.
 
I'm looking for advice on what lures / fishing tackle to bring.
 
Also tips on campng spots on this stretch of the river would be appreciated.
 
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    AndyS509
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    RE: Allegheny Canoe Trip, Kinzua to Tionesta 2007/06/11 16:29:49 (permalink)
    I use a rebel crawfish lure.  It is very good for trout in that stretch espcially from the dam to warren.

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    RE: Allegheny Canoe Trip, Kinzua to Tionesta 2007/06/11 21:22:15 (permalink)
    The Rebel crawfish is a good choice. Also can't go wrong with Rapalas and spinnerbaits for walleye and smallmouth bass.

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    RE: Allegheny Canoe Trip, Kinzua to Tionesta 2007/06/11 23:42:16 (permalink)
    You might want to check out this link.  I have not used them but I know a friend who has.  Seemed pretty happy with their services.
     
    http://www.alleghenyoutfitters.com/Excursions.html
     
    Let us know what you end up doing and how it worked out.
     
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    RE: Allegheny Canoe Trip, Kinzua to Tionesta 2007/06/12 11:02:14 (permalink)
    For smallmouth take a couple top water lures i.e. black buzzbait, yozuri walking stick, black jitter bug.  We did well using those baits last weekend in water 4' and less.  Minnow lures like X Raps, Husky Jerks, Pins Minnow and shad raps are standards for bass and walleye.  Spinner baits usually work if you are fishing in shallower moving water.  I make up my own spinner baits using safety pin rigs, 1/8 or 1/4 oz jig heads, and a twister or swim bait body.  You can create many different lures using several different kinds of parts.   Crawfish baits are usually a good fit, over shallow flats and in riffles, if the algae and weeds are not abundant.  If the water is clear start with silver/black, then gold/black, then chartruse.  If the water is muddy start with brighter colors first.  If you have the time to fish for minnows, riffle runners are a great bait for bass and walleye.  You can catch them in the riffles (fast, shallow water near points) using #22 hooks and a tiny piece of worm.  Good luck!
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    RE: Allegheny Canoe Trip, Kinzua to Tionesta 2007/06/13 08:51:25 (permalink)
    Thanks everyone for your responses, I plan to hit up the local tackle shop this afternoon to geared up!
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    RE: Allegheny Canoe Trip, Kinzua to Tionesta 2007/06/13 09:04:05 (permalink)
    Allegheny jet summed it up pretty good.  Try to get some big Huss lures if you can.  The trout up by Warren love them.

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    RE: Allegheny Canoe Trip, Kinzua to Tionesta 2007/06/13 09:14:35 (permalink)
    Any chance for a muskie? If so what lure / bait would work.
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    RE: Allegheny Canoe Trip, Kinzua to Tionesta 2007/06/13 09:37:37 (permalink)
    I threw a big rapala a little bit when I drifted down.  I got a 30 inch northern.
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    RE: Allegheny Canoe Trip, Kinzua to Tionesta 2007/06/13 09:57:41 (permalink)
    Pitching jigs tipped with half a worm or leech should get you some eyes if they are hungry.  Hit the beginnings and washouts of the holes.  Anchor up and work the area if you can.  The outflow of the creek behind the refinery is really good in the spring, fall and winter but don't know how well it would be in the summer.  There is a large, deep hole just down stream from the refinery that usually holds smallies, eyes and rock bass galore.  Spinning those rifle minnies throught the riffles and just below them should get you some trout and eyes or bass.  Tie on a spro swivel with a 2.5' flourocarbon leader and attach to the mainline.  Make a small loop in the end of the leader (just a double half hitch loop will work) and use a rigging needle to run the line through the mouth of the minnie and out its anus.  Attach a small treble hook to the loop and embed on hook into the bottom of the minnie just behind the anus and pull the line tight.  Attach a split shot up in front of the swivel and work the riffles. 
     
    Some nice camping islands in Starbrick.  Can't go wrong with rapalas either.  Good luck and don't forget to post up a report. 
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    RE: Allegheny Canoe Trip, Kinzua to Tionesta 2007/06/13 12:24:01 (permalink)
    Can you buy the "rifle minnies" from a local bait shop?
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    RE: Allegheny Canoe Trip, Kinzua to Tionesta 2007/06/13 12:37:30 (permalink)
    Andy S509,
     
    What size rapala were you using?
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    RE: Allegheny Canoe Trip, Kinzua to Tionesta 2007/06/13 19:05:08 (permalink)
       rkirkwo1,

              I used a CDMAG26 rapala.
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    RE: Allegheny Canoe Trip, Kinzua to Tionesta 2007/06/14 09:26:23 (permalink)
    For the muskie try to catch a few 8-9 inch suckers.

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    RE: Allegheny Canoe Trip, Kinzua to Tionesta 2007/06/14 22:31:57 (permalink)
    I have a hard time catching suckers.  What do you use as bait?
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    RE: Allegheny Canoe Trip, Kinzua to Tionesta 2007/06/14 22:58:28 (permalink)
    Bow
    Or
    Anything on the bottom
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    RE: Allegheny Canoe Trip, Kinzua to Tionesta 2007/06/15 09:01:29 (permalink)
    I usually just fish the bottom.  Small hook and a worm.  Sorta like trout fishing.  I also have luck with creek chubs.  Go up any trib that goes into the river and have a go at it.

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    RE: Allegheny Canoe Trip, Kinzua to Tionesta 2007/06/15 10:48:20 (permalink)
    I have no problem catching creek chubs.  Its the suckers that I can't seem to get.  You get the suckers in the river, a creek, or a creek flowing into the river?  I can't ever seem to see suckers 6-12 inch.
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    RE: Allegheny Canoe Trip, Kinzua to Tionesta 2007/06/18 09:37:58 (permalink)
    Alittle bit of  them all.  I usually try to find some slow water and try there.  It mostly works for me.  also I have better luck in the tribs than in the river.

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    RE: Allegheny Canoe Trip, Kinzua to Tionesta 2007/06/18 10:24:09 (permalink)
    Thanks.  I will be heading up camp in a couple weeks I will see if I can catch some.
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