Rogue CO's

Have to agree with you on this one. The Fish Wardens (They act like wardens tending criminals) in Pa are some of the rudest fellows I've ever seen. My hats off to the CO's in Ohio and NY. No holier than thou attitude and what can I bust you for today.
   I don't know if any of you remember Mr. Carter who patrolled the Bull Dam and North East area. This man right here trained the guys you run into I bet.. He was the epitome of ****hole. Pushed me out of the way to get in my ice hut once to see if we had too many rods. Couldn't find anything so they left and we watched him drive over in the brush and watch us for 5 hours till we quit. He even checked our license again. Like they expired in 6 hours of fishing. When we came in he went as far as to count our pop bottles to make sure we didn't throw any down the holes in the ice. He saw we had a 6-pack of pop the first check.He counted and checked all our bait, went through every tackle box. Found nothing, turned and walked away without even a how do you do...
   No way to make friends or get help from people if you treat them like criminals.Mind you some are but not all of us..
 

I wish I would have got his name but I forgot. I'm sure I will run into him again and I'll get it next time.

Forgot to mention the fishing is better too

Was he smoking a cigar?
 
 

ORIGINAL: sstaz69

I wish I would have got his name but I forgot. I'm sure I will run into him again and I'll get it next time.

bingsbaits, there are a-wholes in New York also.  Last year I came off of Lake Ontario and there were two conservation officers checking out boats and catches as you came in. One had just graduated from officer school and had to be the bottom of the barrel. In New York it is permissible to filet salmon out on the lake and discard the remains in the lake. He asked to see our catch and I pulled out a bag of filets and he remarks, you are not allowed to filet fish in open waters because they cannot tell if the fish were of legal size. So I open the book of regulations and point it out to him and he says how do I know they were legal? At this point I am ready to scream but I point out that each filet is bigger than the minimum size fish so they had to be legal. Finally the other officer comes over and he must have had two brain cells that talked to each other and he agrees with me and both of them just walk over to the next boat without saying another word to me. It is a shame that those with authority don't realize there is a responsibilty to really know their job and how to perform those duties.

    Mrfisherman, he wasnt smoking a cigar at that time. He was kind of short and stocky, I was hoping to see him today but none were around.
    I know the law say's underseats where fuel may be stored, but the storage under these seats is about 6 inch's tall. Dont know of any boat fuel tank that small. And you are right Scare, the writing is vague. That's another problem with the law makers, too many grey area's where officer's can make thier own rules as they see fit. I do have a fire extinguisher on board and wouldnt leave home without it.

Why would PA WCO Admin. care?  They don't have enough $$ to fund the Fish and Boat Commission.  A large part of it is our faults (taxpayers).  Why wouldn't we agree to combine the resources of Fish and Boat and Game Commish?  Every other state I have lived in or gone to school in does.  Less bureaucracy, less taxes!  or at least more programs (ie hopefully brown stocking?  maybe coho again?)
 
We have had several of those in Crawford County and thank goodness they transferred "Big Red" out of here a couple of years ago.  If you do much fishing or boating in western Crawford County, I think you will recall the fellow.
 
 

CB, I do have a fire extinguisher on the boat. The point is he was wrong. I asked several other different CO's because my friend has a 12' with a closed in bow, the fuel tank is stored in the stern. They said it didnt need one because fuel was not stored there. That makes sense to me. These guy's even said because the bow of my boat had seats with storage underneath a fire extinguisher was required. They were making the law the way they wanted it. Granted i do believe it is a good idea to have one even if it's not required. Dont get me wrong on that point.

indsguiz: If they can't take the heat maybe they need to get out of the kitchen.I did't do anything to them then I don't want to hear none of their crap!Don't take it out on someone who does'nt deserve it. He has a boss too.

    These guy's were actually in a boat docked at east ave. I will have to watch for the one your talking about. Thank you Mr. fisherman
   
    And yes Walcat, you are right, I run an auto repair shop. If I had an upset customer come in and then took it out on the next one that came in I would be out of business in a quick hurry. If you dont like your job then find something you do like to do. But then i think they probably enjoy pushing thier power around.

   

About a dozen or years ago, a group of us were bass fishing over the Memorial Day weekend.  There were four bass boats in our group and we were usualy fishing within sight of each other.  We would fish the lake in the morning, then the bay in the evening.
 
On the first day, a patrol boat pulls over to one of our group and proceeds to go through the check of equipment, license, registration, etc.  After the check, the patrol boat leaves and doesn't check any of the rest of us.
 
Later in the evening, the same patrol boat pull up to the same one of our group in the bay and does the same check.  Again, no other boats in the group were checked.
 
The next day, the exact same thing happens, both in the morning and in the evening.
 
On the 3rd day, as we were about to launch, the WCO, same guy, comes over and starts the same check on the same guy in our group.  Our guy lets the check go on until completed and then he asks the question we all want tohave the answer to -- "Why have you checked me twice a day for two day and are checking me again today, while you never checked any of the othe rboats in our group, or any others within sight for that matter?"
 
The WCO point to the registration number on the boat and says, "You registration number ends in "X,"  that is a dealer registration number."
 
My buddy replied that yes it was, that his father owned a boat dealership and this was a demo boat, so it carried the shop's universal dealer number.
 
To this the WCO answered that because the PFBC gets funding from boat registration he didn't like the fact that this boat was using a universal number and there by not contributing to the Commission budget (there is a cost for a deal tag, so the guy was somewhat incorrect).
 
Our pal starts to get a little excited and gets a little loud -- "So you are telling me that you stopped me, now, five times in three days because you are upset because I am running a dealer tag and it is not putting enough money in your budget?"
 
The WCO gets equally as loud and says, "Yep, and I am going to write you aticket for something for getting out of line here."
 
To which our buddy replies as he pulls out his freshly minted State Tropper badge and tells the WCO, "Go to it pal, but you better pray that I don't pull you over going 56 in a 55 or you will find yourself speadeagled, naked, on the double yellow while I do a cavity search."
 
That basically ended the conversation and we have never been checked since.

ORIGINAL: duncsdad

About a dozen or years ago, a group of us were bass fishing over the Memorial Day weekend.  There were four bass boats in our group and we were usualy fishing within sight of each other.  We would fish the lake in the morning, then the bay in the evening.

On the first day, a patrol boat pulls over to one of our group and proceeds to go through the check of equipment, license, registration, etc.  After the check, the patrol boat leaves and doesn't check any of the rest of us.

Later in the evening, the same patrol boat pull up to the same one of our group in the bay and does the same check.  Again, no other boats in the group were checked.

The next day, the exact same thing happens, both in the morning and in the evening.

On the 3rd day, as we were about to launch, the WCO, same guy, comes over and starts the same check on the same guy in our group.  Our guy lets the check go on until completed and then he asks the question we all want tohave the answer to -- "Why have you checked me twice a day for two day and are checking me again today, while you never checked any of the othe rboats in our group, or any others within sight for that matter?"

The WCO point to the registration number on the boat and says, "You registration number ends in "X,"  that is a dealer registration number."

My buddy replied that yes it was, that his father owned a boat dealership and this was a demo boat, so it carried the shop's universal dealer number.

To this the WCO answered that because the PFBC gets funding from boat registration he didn't like the fact that this boat was using a universal number and there by not contributing to the Commission budget (there is a cost for a deal tag, so the guy was somewhat incorrect).

Our pal starts to get a little excited and gets a little loud -- "So you are telling me that you stopped me, now, five times in three days because you are upset because I am running a dealer tag and it is not putting enough money in your budget?"

The WCO gets equally as loud and says, "Yep, and I am going to write you aticket for something for getting out of line here."

To which our buddy replies as he pulls out his freshly minted State Tropper badge and tells the WCO, "Go to it pal, but you better pray that I don't pull you over going 56 in a 55 or you will find yourself speadeagled, naked, on the double yellow while I do a cavity search."

That basically ended the conversation and we have never been checked since.

 
dude thats friggin awesome!