psu_fish
What did Fauci do in that Wuhan lab to get a preemptive pardon . Pretty sure Rand Paul was going to blow it all up.
 

Pardon shouldn’t change this. Pardon does nothing beyond keeping Fauci out of facing criminal prosecution. Rand would have nothing to do with a criminal prosecution, he isn’t an US Attorney. If he has the evidence, put it through Senate hearings. This is going to do about the same. Tie up the next 2-3 years of Fauci’s time, make things pretty uncomfortable for him.

Fauci is 84 years old. I’d imagine by the time a criminal trial was set after technical delays (see Trump trials), the actual trial happening and sentencing, he’d be close to 90, if alive. Not like he would be put in jail prior to trial. Does it really matter if a criminal trial vs Senate hearing? For someone his age, they are basically the same thing. If found guilty in a criminal trial, what are the odds that he would be alive to serve any time?

The important thing is that if there is enough hard evidence that would lead to a conviction, put it in front of the American people in a Senate hearing. In a court case, Federal trials do not allow media coverage. Which then allows the media sources to cherry pick what they report. Senate hearings have cameras.

bigfoot
 I believe it was Mrs Pelosi who turned thumbs down on that request. 

That is a made up story by Trump.  The Pentagon turned Trump down.  They thought the optics of using military on US citizens was unacceptable (remember Kent State?)

Porktown

psu_fish
What did Fauci do in that Wuhan lab to get a preemptive pardon . Pretty sure Rand Paul was going to blow it all up.
 

Pardon shouldn’t change this. Pardon does nothing beyond keeping Fauci out of facing criminal prosecution. Rand would have nothing to do with a criminal prosecution, he isn’t an US Attorney. If he has the evidence, put it through Senate hearings. This is going to do about the same. Tie up the next 2-3 years of Fauci’s time, make things pretty uncomfortable for him.

Fauci is 84 years old. I’d imagine by the time a criminal trial was set after technical delays (see Trump trials), the actual trial happening and sentencing, he’d be close to 90, if alive. Not like he would be put in jail prior to trial. Does it really matter if a criminal trial vs Senate hearing? For someone his age, they are basically the same thing. If found guilty in a criminal trial, what are the odds that he would be alive to serve any time?

The important thing is that if there is enough hard evidence that would lead to a conviction, put it in front of the American people in a Senate hearing. In a court case, Federal trials do not allow media coverage. Which then allows the media sources to cherry pick what they report. Senate hearings have cameras.

 
I think this is pretty spot on Pork, and I've probably never had more disdain for a government bureaucrat than I have for Fauci.   
 
Fauci was largely a bag man who became a public spokesperson.  There are others - Ralph Baric, Peter Daszak, and Francis Collins - who were not given preemptive pardons and each of them had much more involvement in all of this than Fauci did, particularly Baric and Daszak.  
 
Other than Rand Paul, I don't think anybody in Trump's administration or Congress has the rocks to carry any of it through though past a Congressional dog and pony show to criminal prosecution if the dog and pony show reveals evidence of criminality.  
 
Fauci's pardon and Hunter's pardon both go back to the same date - 1/1/14.  Interesting idn't it?

JerryS

bigfoot
I believe it was Mrs Pelosi who turned thumbs down on that request. 

That is a made up story by Trump.  The Pentagon turned Trump down.  They thought the optics of using military on US citizens was unacceptable (remember Kent State?)

I stand corrected. Te pentagon ignored the request from info I looked up.. And yes, I remember Kent state but the details are fuzzy. Students killed by a national guardsmen.

MyWar

DarDys
I have no idea about any coins to which you refer. See, I actually have a life (maybe you ought to give it a try or seek help from someone that can show you the way) and do not have the need to be on the look out for every breath some politician takes, or might take, or could take, or should take, or is is being interpreted by this or that so-called expert.

Here, you can read all about it.

https://fortune.com/2025/...ag-investors-rug-pull/

I presume you voted for the guy, and here you are defending him on a public forum. I think it’s a valid question.

You say “these things take time” but it seems like he didn’t waste any time using the power of his office and celebrity to benefit his own personal wealth. Why wasn’t it his #1 priority to do that for the American people?

Anybody else know since the cat got dardys tongue?

Don't worry, DOGE will get things moving.  What could go wrong when you put a government contractor (and richest man in the world) in charge of government spending?

Apparently hawking in on a meme coin is worse than selling access and influence to China, Ukraine and Romania.....you pardon your son (backdated to 1/1/2014), then pardon your siblings and their spouses in the last 20 Fing mins in power.....not odd at all. 

 At least his better half got in on it also.
 
 Got a kick out of the young dude that lost his million dollar inherence that his Grandpap left him. He bet Trumps bitcoin would reach $40 within so many days. Funny when he first posted his gamble up online and kept reposting until he lost it including his wife.
 
 He says he doesn't have a gambling problem  

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/01/21/harris-column-trump-great-president-00199564
 
 
The politico isnt exactly right wing