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2017/08/30 10:40:36 (permalink)

2018 Stocking levels

http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/111196.html
 
This is an agency decision that has been presented as fiat accompli to some of the stakeholders with the caveat that it not be discussed prior to public release by NYSDEC, but it is on the website now, so please read.  

I think the data is very supportive of the decision and with the precarious status of the adult baitfish population out through 2020, a resumption of full predator load would carry an unacceptable risk.  I know a lot of charter operators disagree.
 
Public Meetings:
Monday September 11 6-9 PM Braddock Bay State Park (Not at the marina, this is the driveway just a little north of the parkway exit)
Tuesday September 12 6-9 PM Pulaski ( Location TBD?, but likely the High School)
Wednesday September 13 6-9 PM Lockport 4H Building
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Re: 2018 Stocking levels 2017/08/30 15:03:23 (permalink)
Here is the link and official announcement:
 
http://www.dec.ny.gov/press/press.html

DEC Announces Lake Ontario Fisheries Meetings

Current Salmon and Trout Stocking Levels will be Maintained in 2018

The New York State Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC) today announced that the public will have the opportunity to learn and ask questions about the upcoming 2018 Lake Ontario salmon and trout stocking. Public meetings to gather input will be held in Oswego, Niagara, and Monroe counties in September.
"Lake Ontario and its tributaries provide world-class salmon and trout angling opportunities," Commissioner Basil Seggos said. "Salmon and trout fishing in Lake Ontario continues to be outstanding and DEC remains committed to ensuring that the ecological, recreational and economic benefits of Lake Ontario's sport fisheries are sustained through management practices based on cutting-edge science."
Survey results in 2016 revealed poor survival of Alewife produced in 2013 and 2014, which will result in negative impacts on the adult population of this important prey species in future years. To protect the valuable fishery, the DEC and the Ontario Ministry of Natural Resources and Forestry (OMNRF) adjusted stocking levels for Chinook Salmon and Lake Trout down 20 percent in 2017 to reduce predator demand on adult Alewife.
Alewife survey results from 2017 confirmed the ongoing impacts of poor Alewife production in 2013 and 2014 on the overall population, but also revealed record numbers of young Alewife produced in 2016. The record numbers of Alewife produced in 2016 is promising, but additional strong Alewife reproduction and survival is needed in upcoming years to rebuild the adult population. In an ongoing effort to effectively manage Lake Ontario fisheries for long-term benefits, DEC and OMNRF will maintain the 2017 stocking targets in 2018. The combined 2018 salmon and trout stocking total will exceed 4.6 million fish, and managers are optimistic that good fishing will continue.
During these public meetings, staff from DEC will present information and the public will have the opportunity to ask questions. Overview for Discussions regarding 2018 Salmon and Trout Stocking Levels in Lake Ontario is available on DEC's website.
Members of the public that cannot attend a meeting can provide comments via email to: fwfishlo@dec.ny.gov. For further information, please contact Steve LaPan, New York Great Lakes Fisheries Section Head, at the Cape Vincent Fisheries Research Station, (315) 654-2147.
The meeting dates and locations are:
  • Monday, September 11: 6:30 p.m. - 9:00 p.m. at the Donald Schleiter Lodge and Pavillion, 199 East Manitou Road in Braddock Bay Park, Rochester, Monroe County.
  • Tuesday, September 12: 6:30 p.m. - 9:00 p.m. at the Pulaski High School auditorium, 4624 Salina Street, Pulaski, Oswego County.
  • Wednesday, September 13: 6:30 p.m. - 9:00 p.m. at the Cornell Cooperative Extension Building, 4487 Lake Avenue, Lockport, Niagara County.
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Re: 2018 Stocking levels 2017/08/30 20:31:24 (permalink)
Thanks for sharing.
I have my thoughts, their just mine however and I'll be thankful for what we have as a fishery.

"whats that smell like fish oh baby" .. J. Kaukonen
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Re: 2018 Stocking levels 2017/09/01 11:51:44 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Lucky13 2017/09/01 13:30:43
I might not be happy about what the State does on a short term basis but have great admiration for the fishery they have created.
Its their job to try and keep the fishery alive despite ma nature throwing curve balls here and there and I fully accept their opinions on the matter.
So far I believe they have done an outstanding job even though its sometimes a thankless endeavor for them in the short haul with so many only being concerned with a full cooler.
post edited by r3g3 - 2017/09/07 20:39:44
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Re: 2018 Stocking levels 2017/09/07 19:17:39 (permalink)
Will try to go to the meeting tuesday

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Re: 2018 Stocking levels 2017/09/08 11:03:53 (permalink)
I may see you there.
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Re: 2018 Stocking levels 2017/09/12 13:47:12 (permalink)
If you are up fishing the Eastern Basin and tribs, please do not forget the DEC  meeting tonight from 6:30 to 9:00 PM at the Pulaski High School Auditorium  4624 Salina Street.  I attended the Rochester meeting last night and was very impressed with a thorough and well reasoned presentation of the data supporting maintenance of the 2017 stocking levels for the near future.
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Re: 2018 Stocking levels 2017/09/12 15:45:45 (permalink)
Since it is a 500+ mile round trip for me I'll have to pass on the meetings.
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Re: 2018 Stocking levels 2017/09/12 19:12:38 (permalink)
I am at the meeting now, what I can't get is the people who just don't believe what they are saying and think they are trying to pull a fast one and cutting stocking  for a "secret agenda''
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Re: 2018 Stocking levels 2017/09/13 10:25:30 (permalink)
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I am at the meeting now, what I can't get is the people who just don't believe what they are saying and think they are trying to pull a fast one and cutting stocking  for a "secret agenda''


Yep, the true solution to most of these guys is stock MORE, MORE, MORE kings..... which could result in a complete collapse of the alewife population, which would allow them to get rid of the kings entirely (we'd likely lose the steelhead, too), and focus on re-establishment of the natives, Lake trout and Atlantic Salmon.  Go figure!   
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Re: 2018 Stocking levels 2017/09/13 10:28:40 (permalink)
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Since it is a 500+ mile round trip for me I'll have to pass on the meetings.


Musta missed the first line in my post.  "If you are up fishing the Eastern Basin and tribs...."
 
But, from attending in Rochester, the content of the meeting is well summarized in the pdf they distributed prior and at the meetings.
http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/111196.html
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Re: 2018 Stocking levels 2017/09/13 12:11:38 (permalink)
I was also happy to hear that the steel and hos are eating gobies . Needless to say these guys have it under control

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Re: 2018 Stocking levels 2017/09/13 14:20:25 (permalink)
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Since it is a 500+ mile round trip for me I'll have to pass on the meetings.


Musta missed the first line in my post.  "If you are up fishing the Eastern Basin and tribs...."
 
But, from attending in Rochester, the content of the meeting is well summarized in the pdf they distributed prior and at the meetings.
http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/111196.html


You're correct lucky...I did n't catch that first line
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