guy at upper twin giving fish away

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2016/05/17 18:41:28 (permalink)

guy at upper twin giving fish away

I was fishing twin lakes a couple days ago.over to the right of me was a guy named joe and i have witnessed this a few times as of late. he catches his first fish and puts it on the stringer. and every other fish after that he tryed to give away he goes as far as giving it to people out walking dogs or running. my question is this is illegal right? i mean this dude catches and gives away so many fish that he would have had his limit 2 or 3 times i said something to him about it as i was walking back to the car to call it a day and he asked how i did i explained a got a couple nice fish but threw everything back to catch another day. and he should not give so many fish away. the guy isnt a bad guy he is a friendly guy who clearly has some skill fishing bottom with powerbait. but if he is doing this all the time alot of trout are going to people who arent interested in actually catching fish i wondered watching him give his 3rd fish away that day how many he gives away over the course of a year i dont know maybe i am wrong maybe it isnt a big deal and why should i care. like i said the guy is cool to talk too just think thats wrong.
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    slabfinder
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    Re: guy at upper twin giving fish away 2016/05/17 20:38:52 (permalink)
    Talk to the commish, if you are concerned.
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    Re: guy at upper twin giving fish away 2016/05/17 21:25:59 (permalink)
    Catch and release is a concept some folks just can't get their head wrapped around.
    If he isn't breaking any rules, I'd guess I'd just bite my lip and be on my way.
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    Re: guy at upper twin giving fish away 2016/05/17 22:07:40 (permalink)
    It is unlawful...
     
    To fail to immediately return unharmed to the waters from which it was taken, any fish caught out of season, or undersize, or over the daily creel limit. Any fish placed on a stringer, in any container or given away, counts toward the possession limit of the person having caught it, and the person to whom it was given.
     
    Source; http://fishandboat.com/fi...ummary/violations.html

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    Re: guy at upper twin giving fish away 2016/05/17 22:11:57 (permalink)
    § 61.1. Commonwealth inland waters.

    (5) Fish may be given to another person, but the fish shall be counted in the donor’s creel limit and neither donor nor the recipient may kill or possess (while in the act of fishing) more than the limit allowed.

    http://www.pacode.com/sec...apter61/chap61toc.html

    It should be noted that the recipient must possess a valid license.

    I am familiar with Joe. He is fishing for the tags. It appears this is his solution to the pile of floaters he would leave behind in the past.
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    Re: guy at upper twin giving fish away 2016/05/18 01:00:17 (permalink)
    Phish, if it bothers you when you see it and don't like it, there are a couple things you could do.

    First is to talk to old Joe and tell him what's up and that he shouldn't be blatantly disregarding the law.

    If that doesn't work or he doesn't care look up the number for the PFBC Southwest Regional office and call when you see it happening and report it to a WCO.

    Or you might just come to be OK with it since all those trout are gonna die in another month or two anyway and somebody might be getting a meal or some fertilizer out of it so they're not totally wasted.
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    Re: guy at upper twin giving fish away 2016/05/18 07:39:58 (permalink)
    It is still highly illegal and unfair on others who pay for their fishing license and fish to get a couple of trout either for sport or to eat. I know mostly the trout will die off if or when the water gets too warm but that is not the point at all in this case....and the way the weather this spring is going there are few more weeks of trout fishing the local stocked lakes...Why should one guy break the rules like that to the detriment of everyone else???....
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    Re: guy at upper twin giving fish away 2016/05/18 08:07:39 (permalink)
    As long as the people he's giving them to have a license and they both stay under the limit, I see no problems with it. Put and take fishery and all. But over the limit, or giving them to random(non fishing license carrying) passers by is obviously a big no no.
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    Re: guy at upper twin giving fish away 2016/05/18 10:41:53 (permalink)
    I do not think that the recipient needs a fishing license,at least I could not find it in the regs. I can see giving some away,but unless  they are injured I think it is better to release them if you don't want to eat them so that they can be caught again. We have slowed him down some,but Joe's bigger fault is how he handles them while trying to unhook them,even the ones that he throws back. You can take the tag off of a fish without hurting them as we do & as proved by the ones that we catch that have marks on their gill plate.  sam
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    Re: guy at upper twin giving fish away 2016/05/18 12:38:15 (permalink)
    Joe has cable, don't be like Joe.. license plate number, description of vehicle and person, brief summary of what you witness report to park police and Fish commish. All they do is drive by too lazy to get out.. maybe if they see the vehicle description and license plate it will eliminate the footwork they don't want to do..if all else fails take him to the porta Jon and give him a swirly. Mic drop you basically have to do their whole job for them to be effective

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    Re: guy at upper twin giving fish away 2016/05/18 14:21:43 (permalink)
    mr.crappie
    I do not think that the recipient needs a fishing license,at least I could not find it in the regs.   sam
    just read big Steve's post. Just a few posts back.
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    Re: guy at upper twin giving fish away 2016/05/18 14:44:20 (permalink)
    Fishingguy, i did read his post & also read the PF&BC rule & still don't see where the PF&BC states that the recipitant needs a license. Prob just me,but I would like to see where it is.  sam
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    Re: guy at upper twin giving fish away 2016/05/18 15:45:43 (permalink)
    Click the link in Steve's post. Scroll down to (5). The fish given away counts towards the daily limit for both people. Deductive reasoning suggests that the limit for someone without a license would be 0. So if you give a fish away to someone without a license, at least that person would be in violation. Maybe I'm interpreting it wrong, but if im not, take your buddy with you that doesn't have a license, and you (they) can keep as many as you care to catch, regardless of limits.
    post edited by FishinGuy - 2016/05/18 15:47:52
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    Re: guy at upper twin giving fish away 2016/05/18 18:35:19 (permalink)
    You as 1 licensed person are solemnly restricted to 5 fish any way shape or form you are not allowed to give them away after 5 you can give them to anyone you please as long as its not in excess of 5 in a 24 hour period as for the licensed/unlicensed receiver topic.. its irrelevant as long as the magic number 5 for u or the receiver isn't in possession of more then 5 fish from the same body of water that you are entitled to in a 24 hour period hasn't been exceeded

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    Re: guy at upper twin giving fish away 2016/05/18 20:08:52 (permalink)
    Fish'nguy, I may be wrong,but I believe that any fish over your limit that is not immediately returned to the water unharmed puts you in violation no matter how many bodies of water that you fish or who you give them to.  sam
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    Re: guy at upper twin giving fish away 2016/05/18 20:14:54 (permalink)
    Gives them away they will sit in freezer for a year then get thrown away . or floating same ending .skill with power bait those  words should not be in the same sentence . EVER
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    Re: guy at upper twin giving fish away 2016/05/18 20:38:08 (permalink)
    Agree no skill usingng power bait. That stuff should be band. Every trout that eats it should be roped not released because the few times I use it every trout swallowed it to there butt. I used it when my kids where young,just for the action and ease to catching fish. As to the giving away,5 fish may be kept or given away. After 5 your a poacher.
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    Re: guy at upper twin giving fish away 2016/05/18 21:53:32 (permalink)
    Trout are worthless, once froze thier mush. You can keep all the trout you want.
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    Re: guy at upper twin giving fish away 2016/05/19 08:24:24 (permalink)
    slabfinder
    Trout are worthless, once froze thier mush. You can keep all the trout you want.

    Well...that was helpful....
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    Re: guy at upper twin giving fish away 2016/05/19 20:05:30 (permalink)
    Not sure what is worse in this thread... people getting bent about how someone fishes for pelletheads, people getting bent about someone giving away pelletheads, or the massacre of the English language.  I can't even... just wow.
     
    To the guys who gave credible info about limits AND used "their" or "there" correctly, good on ya.  
     
    As for killing fish because of HOW you fish, I have to agree that it is a real thing.  And something as SPORTSMEN that we should all consider.  If I'm fishing deep water and I try to cull perch for bigger specimens, that's illegal and immoral.  Kind of like stealing from yourself in a way.  So if you know you are gut hooking fish, even if they are stockies, you probably shouldn't fish after your limit.  I don't think I'd call in the marines on him, or nuke the lake from orbit, but that's just me.
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    Re: guy at upper twin giving fish away 2016/05/20 19:52:37 (permalink)
    Who cares they're just dumb fish and Seghis pays out more $$ on tags. Only worth wild thing at twin is yoga pants and sports bras.

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    Re: guy at upper twin giving fish away 2016/05/21 02:17:31 (permalink)
    Mountian Man
    Who cares they're just dumb fish and Seghis pays out more $$ on tags. Only worth wild thing at twin is yoga pants and sports bras.
    lmao yes best comment on this board so far the sights far outweigh the fishing there that's for sure

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