Dpms,
You can compare apples to oranges all you want til blue in the face and none of that will take back the fact the issue got crap-canned. Period.

DPMS-- I think your headed for the deep end on this one. Hunting was opposed by 80% of land owners and 50% of the hunters the lawsuit was claimed to be for. It has nothing to do with fishing, boating, mushroom hunting or anything else.  The folks who started the lawsuit did it for their own particular reasons and I suspect you are still pushing it for your own reason. When the folks it's supposed to be for don't want it---- time to move on.

Ironhed
You fit the bill of today's society...want, want, want, easy, easy, easy.  Reminds me of crossbow hunting. lol

 
Figured that would get brought up. Classy! That Mathews you were trying to sell had more gadgets and gizmos on it than any bow I ever shot. I bet you hunt out of tree stands to and use laser rangefinders. Easy button, lol. As long as you do it the "hard way", lol. 
 

HUSH was/is a joke.  Sometimes you just gotta take a swat on the ****, tuck your tail and find the door.  

Not affiliated with HUSH or defending HUSH. My discussion with you was about SH and Sunday fishing to point out the hypocrisy that most are blind to, including yourself.
 
My job is easy. I have the facts on my side. The hard part is getting some of you to take off the foggy classes and look at them. Doc, as an example, keeps talking about hunting being unsafe. Overwhelming data suggests otherwise. Wayne, keeps talking about all of the negative consequences, yet there is no evidence across this country that is measurable to back him up. You just take shots and tell others to move on, it is over. 
 
 

Right off the HUSH website.  Who is kidding who?  LMAO
 
10. Question: Isn’t this issue all about deer, really?

Answer: No. Deer management is a separate issue, managed by scientists and an agency board sensitive to hunter and landowner needs. We are confident that an agency capable of turning Pennsylvania into the trophy hunting destination it is now will also be able to handle an additional week or so of hunting pressure in its overall wildlife management process

Does he have a TRIPOD mount for that Mathews ??
 
Talk about hypocrisy.
During the crossbow debate you (DPMS) kept telling us it was no different than archery equipment.
You are now shooting turkeys over 40 yards with a tripod mounted crossbow you don't even have to hold in your hands.
That's Bu11shi1 and you kinow it.

Ironhed



 
We have been allowed to fish on Sundays forever and Sundays we have not.   

 
Not getting into the SH thing, but actually for quite some time, you could not fish in PA on Sundays.  My father recalls that well.  Also, since the 4th of July is coming up this week, that used to be the end of trout season.

 

Doc, as an example, keeps talking about hunting being unsafe.

 
Well I do mention the fears folks have about DEER HUNTING being unsafe.... I also point out situations that give those people cause for concern. Do I truly believe hunting is unsafe... as a whole NO .... but I can and do easily understand why many folks feel the way they do .... and a few unsafe folks make that "fear" appear year after year and allows folks to continue to have their fears...
 
and this thread was about Sunday hunting.. all I mentioned was some folks concern about the "walking in the woods" thing.. you brought safety as a whole into the conversation ...
 

You do know that fishing is more dangerous than hunting and trespass is as big an issue, yet fishing is legal on Sundays.......

 
regardless there are folks out there and they are MANY in numbers, that tell their elected official of those incidents
and the elected official is not about to get them even more offended by starting to throw "figures" about safety at them....
 
Now I would just love to jump on the 'deer hunting is safe... safe as can be  band wagon"... but here's the news from this PAST deer season....
My neighbor's camp, about 75 yards away, has a huge outdoor propane grill under his pavilion... VERY expensive..... it now has a bullet hole in it ..... try to tell him hunting is safer than fishing....
 
If gene lived in a much more rural setting he may understand folks living in areas like this and why they have that fear ...  I doubt Gene or his wife or kids has ever looked out the window and saw a hunter about 35 yards away with the high powered rifle in hand, looking for any movement that MAY be from a deer.......... I doubt his neighbor has bullet hole in any of they property....
 
as for the figures.... relating to accidents ......  Gene .. let's use my neighbor .....  what good would it do for him to report that hole in the grill .... I can't recall the PGC ever listing a stray bullet in a camp as an accident .... those type things do not even get reported for the most part... and I rarely read of anyone ever getting caught or punished for mistaken domestic animal kills .... they just walk away and the PGC can find no trace of them by the time they get there...  and what makes it worse.. the shooter know that and just leaves ......
 
 
Hunting to me is as safe as most things in life.. you can get killed or injured by doing many things, and damage can come from many things... but just because one has never experienced any of the "bad" unsafe hunting events does not give them reason to not try to understand those of us that have and why many do have concern and fear of high power rifles in deer season .. thus no Sunday hunting  desires... in fact I could get on the  let's just not use high powered rifles for deer, if it were not for the fact that I only have to worry about them for only 12 days a year and enjoy hunting with a rifle...
 
 
I talked to Senator Scarnati on Monday and told him of this conversation on SH ... he smiled and said it is a dead -horse for quite awhile.... he mentioned all the opposing sides.... and agreed in this area most citizens, farmers, and hunters do not want SH .. period ..... and it's more than a 50/50 split against it from everyone he has listened to..... and about the same split in the Senate...
 
Made it sound like it will not even ever come up for a vote ...... even the "yes" guys do not what that opinion
(think vote) "on the record" ..... 
 
 
 
 
 
 

"with some of those opposed to SH here like Doc and Hed, even earning income off of fishing on Sundays."
 
 
Please find, and quote me, saying I am opposed to Sunday hunting.  Please.
You just love to judge others, don't you?

I can take Sunday hunting or leave it. However, if the law were changed you can rest assured that the yellow posted signs will pop up like dandelions in my, and surrounding, counties. Hundreds, if not thousands, of acres are owned or leased by Amish, Mennonites and, other families having strong religious convictions. Just some food for thought. God Bless America and All Who Keep Her Free

Ironhed
You are part of the "me and easy" crowd. Don't have to judge. You write your posts, noone else.

As do you. Yet you complain about judging, lol.

why do you keep bringing up Sunday fishing?

Both are highly regulated outdoor sports that have agencies responsible for regulating them using seasons, bag limits and regulations to protect the wildlife resources of a state.

1937? Really?

Yea. Really. And your comment kinda proves my point. If SH were legalized, our children would be saying "really" 80 years from now, just as they say "really" in most of the country when the topic of the few states that don't allow it comes up.

Some of the trout streams I fish are posted for 'No Sunday' fishing...WF...I dont fish them on Sunday.