Shot weight

I have used this page and a simple online calculator, but mostly I just weight them on my wifes  digital scale
 
 
 http://www.questoutdoors..../shot-size-conversion/
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

To give you a little more to ponder ...........There are 28.35 grams per ounce and 1/8 of a ounce is 3.54 grams.So with that info you can use that table to add weights to stay about in line with the legal weight limit in the "zones". As if the DEC even thinks about enforcing any regs there.

Sorry guys, Tuna is in hardwater mode where weights and measures don't matter. Right now I'm hitting perch on a 1/32 oz jig in a white out loving life.
Have fun on the tribs

Clint's chart is interesting though.  Fishing down river on 2000, I was using an old lead 5 and two 3/0's  (way more weight than I like but way more water as well).  This adds up to 4.62 grams.  I was legal where I was fishing, but would not have been up in the zone.  But I routinely see people with larger shot than 5's and more of them than 1 lobbing away up in the zone, even at lower flows.  And at 2000, this says you can't be 1/4 up, mend to sink,bottom bouncing into the swing in the zone, which then necessitates casting further upstream and allowing more sink, which then means I will probably do better with the Stonefly and rockworm type flies I hear so much about (and I've been carrying caddis pupa ties for over 20 years on the SR, but only using them in pretty skinny water), and a thingamabobber, which seems to be the most popular rig in the zones, than I will swinging wets, ironic because swinging wets is the traditional method for steelhead on the west coast (of course, no shot is allowed on many of the west coast rivers).  It also means that it would be a good idea to weigh lengths of common weighting wire, and beads and other "eyes" because some of those barbells and things look as big or bigger than a 5, and even with lighter material in the eyes, addition of any shot could get you into the over 1/8 area when the fly is also carrying weight.  And how much does a 1/0 Octopus weigh, all flies on the river have to be less than 1/8 ounce additional weight, and we've seen at least one report of an Encon officer taking that to mean the fly can't weigh more than 1/8 ounce?  I've often wondered how these rules got "cooked" as I don't recall any comment period or preannouncement of any of this, but it would all be unnecessary except that many folks just had to over weight and start ripping even up in the zones.  And as Pa says, I've never seen a hand held balance come out of a uniform pocket up there.  Also, with much more than a couple of 5's, an errant cast catching you in the back of the head (or catching someone else in the back of the head) can be very painful.
 
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I will admit I will push the limit up in the zones especially in  high water  in close quarters where you cannot get a a good shot up stream to get a  good sink.  When I say push I mean a 5 a 3/0  (which puts me at the limit)  and then the swivel and the fly.  Technically am I wrong yes, but talking to local econ.  they will not get that picky.  The rule is  1/8 ounce alone or combined  in the zones  so I guess an 1/8   fly would be fine as long as there was no shot.  On the river the weight on the hook can be no more than 1/8  so yes a streamer with huge barbell eyes wrapped with lead weighing 4 grams could result in a ticket
 
This is from DEC
In the zones
The combined weight of any supplemental weight (as defined in paragraph 9 of this subdivision) and fly not exceed one-eighth of an ounce.
 
On the river
Use of hooks with added weight is prohibited, except that artificial flies with no more than one-eighth ounce added weight are permitted. For the purpose of this paragraph, the method by which weight is added to a hook does not affect classification of the hook as an artificial fly, provided the hook otherwise meets the definition of an artificial fly in section 19.1(c) of this Title.
 
 
 
Several occasions I have seen the boat go through and them yell hold up your leaders so I can see the weights.   More often than not if the folks that  are a little over get a verbal lashing.   You can see and hear the boat coming so unless you are an idiot there is plent of time to "snip and act like you lost your rig"  
  I have seen on one occasion an officer  snip the leader and take it with him after writing a ticket, but this guy was probably using 2 #4's.   

Clint and all, I will admit the more we discuss on what's right and what's not either socially or regulatory , the less I wish to fish such places. I am happy as pie catching dink perch all day long without out any such concerns of who is casting to my water.
I will most likely drop out if the SR discussions for awhile.
Honestly they depress me. The only thing that lifts my sprits are good stories and great photos.

Peace & Tuna

Looks like next weekend around here for the ice to get thick enough, lows in the teens highs in the low 30's

C'mon guys keep checkin'  in.   HT post some steel on ice.  Fichy post whatever.   I know I will post my ice fishing adventures here.  It's not about the fishing all the time,  it's about the hanging out with some guys that you have something in common with  even if they are a few hours away.   
My partner bugged out for tomorrow so my plans are up in the air dependent on weather. 

"Jack, I LOVE winter but I hate snow... lol"
This says it all for me too!!!
 
Rich the crowds and  behaviors get to me to, but it is what it is.   Hoping for some perch by next weekend.
 

 

 
 Feel that many here have become 'interned friends'. Think its too bad some wont be around for the' off topic' season.  lol