Elk Creek Access-Why Not?

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2013/07/24 22:31:46 (permalink)

Elk Creek Access-Why Not?

Bear with me here just curious...............
 
Why not spend some of the money from Erie stamp to fix up Elk Creek Access.
Better boat access to lake and "Project Water" type improvements to the creek, like the Nut'.
Bigger parking lot, better ramp, clear deep channel from ramp to lake, and stream improvements from ramp to Rt 5.
Is it funding issues, property lines, environmental issues, or something I am totally missing like no one else thinks its worth while????
It would benefit many and spread out the fisherman better, Right????
I know this has been thought of before just do not understand why it has not happened.
Go ahead and give me the truth or just a long list of smart a.. replies been reading here for a while I am used to the nonsense.
 
Yep!- let the 2013 fall run nonsense begin..................
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    Eman89so
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    Re:Elk Creek Access-Why Not? 2013/07/25 00:57:38 (permalink)
    I wish they would do this as well honestly. I tried to launch out of elk in my boat, wasn't happening. Ed
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    Re:Elk Creek Access-Why Not? 2013/07/25 04:50:52 (permalink)
    There is two ramps at elk one on the Fish Com property and one at the State park property and neither one is usable. They can't even clear the mud off the cement ramps. I hve called on both like talking to a cement wall.
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    Re:Elk Creek Access-Why Not? 2013/07/25 10:53:32 (permalink)
    They dredged the launch last week, we launched a 17' Alumacraft there last weekend no problem... Also witnessed numerous other boats launch there up to 19'
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    Re:Elk Creek Access-Why Not? 2013/07/25 13:18:17 (permalink)
    The creek rising would make the channel deeper how is that bad? Theres lots of room for boats to line up and wait in line
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    Re:Elk Creek Access-Why Not? 2013/07/25 13:52:15 (permalink)
    Any kind of flood to elk would reset any dredging that would occur.   Allot of debris fallout at the mouth.  The channel and mouth conditions change often due to storms and its different every time I go there.   I would like to know when they maintenance the launches.  It would help save some gas money from the walnut launch.  A whole lot of cost would be associated to keep this creek serviced for boat traffic.
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    Re:Elk Creek Access-Why Not? 2013/07/25 14:52:29 (permalink)
    I've always wondered why they built launches at the creek mouths anyway?  With how these trib creeks get a good ice jam or two every year, and a few other blowouts that destroy any dredging.  Are the launches like North East needing redredged every year?  I'm guessing those launches are a bit more expensive to make, compared to annual dredging.  Luckily for Erie, there is the peninsula and bay that is a natural barrier from the lake, and allows for a bunch of launches there. 
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    Re:Elk Creek Access-Why Not? 2013/07/25 15:55:34 (permalink)
    Hummer, the launch was dredged last week and no flooding so far so you can get out at elk.
    Im aware that the creeks get silted in, but billy boy up here specifically said no where to tie up so if the creek rose while trying to get out, since only one boat can get out at a time, that it would make a bad situation worse, 5 feet of water isnt going to silt in instantly. sorry billy. 
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    Re:Elk Creek Access-Why Not? 2013/07/25 15:58:31 (permalink)
    william h

    Steel Junkie

    The creek rising would make the channel deeper how is that bad? Theres lots of room for boats to line up and wait in line


    this place is like the Twilight zone...

    Its obvious you have no idea about.... anything related to Elk...
    so whats the use replying anymore... mr. junkie

    All hail king Billy, ruler of Fisherie, he knows everything about PA waterways! Check every thread to confirm it...
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    workcanwait....
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    Re:Elk Creek Access-Why Not? 2013/07/25 17:01:11 (permalink)
    I do not own  boat or fish the lake but figured it was just too far from lake and too much dredging required to keep it open.
     
    I still say from boat ramp to Rt5 could use some stream improvements boulder piles placed just right and maybe some annual dredging/ digging to make more fishable holding spots. I know it is "good' water without it but I think it could be improved.
     
    Does anyone know how much money is available from Erie stamp for projects?
     
    I think some of the money has been used wisely to make more access for steelheading but not really impressed over all.
     
    Either way I and many others will keep on chasing the steel through the criks and make the best of whats around.
     
    Now you can go back to bickering..............
     
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    Re:Elk Creek Access-Why Not? 2013/07/26 07:55:49 (permalink)
    Workcanwait, I think the problem with improving that section of stream is access. Too hard to get in to dig and dredge, place stone piles
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    Re:Elk Creek Access-Why Not? 2013/07/26 08:42:26 (permalink)
    Thanks for the info about last week.  I'm wondering how much silt would be deposited on a stiff north winds from only 1 week from the time of dredging.  I'm not sure.   Grounding a lower unit is a big gamble.  Not sure its worth the risk.  I've seen boats bottom out in the dark followed by screaming.  
     
    In my opinion, for a project.  Do it right the first time with a design that will work and don't cheap out on the project or... leave it to the mother nature.
     
     
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    Re:Elk Creek Access-Why Not? 2013/07/26 10:39:18 (permalink)
    Hummer, I can't answer the silt build up from north winds but the shallowest we read was around 4.5 feet until we got out the channel by the cliff, then we were seeing depths 6'+ all the way to the lake.
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    Re:Elk Creek Access-Why Not? 2013/07/26 11:11:20 (permalink)
    I might try to launch outta there on the 9th.. We'll see if any other boats are going out of there..
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    Re:Elk Creek Access-Why Not? 2013/07/26 18:20:44 (permalink)
    Hummer82

    Thanks for the info about last week.  I'm wondering how much silt would be deposited on a stiff north winds from only 1 week from the time of dredging.  I'm not sure.   Grounding a lower unit is a big gamble.  Not sure its worth the risk.  I've seen boats bottom out in the dark followed by screaming.  

    In my opinion, for a project.  Do it right the first time with a design that will work and don't cheap out on the project or... leave it to the mother nature.



    Yea the nimrod engineer who did Shade's Beach launch sure needs to go back to school...
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    Re:Elk Creek Access-Why Not? 2013/07/29 08:56:42 (permalink)
    Went out again on 7/27, no problems again.
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