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2013/05/21 14:04:19 (permalink)

another board

i see another fishing board is now unavailable, gone seasonal......what does that mean?
very confused 
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    hot tuna
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    Re:another board 2013/05/21 14:49:29 (permalink)
    I think he got sick of all the craziness .. Can't say I blame him.
    Meanwhile , I am spending the afternoon watching my grandkids trout fish at lake Everest ( ausable just above dam) . Having a blast watching 2 & 4 year olds playing with 12-14" trout.
    Fun stuff

    "whats that smell like fish oh baby" .. J. Kaukonen
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    Re:another board 2013/05/21 15:12:21 (permalink)
    you absolutely win
    sounds like a great day ....enjoy  :)
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    Re:another board 2013/05/21 15:44:53 (permalink)
    I recently became a member of that board.
    From discussions on the board and PMs on it and other boards with members current and past I gather that the site suffered some rather harsh moderation and it was not even handed.
    Some were allowed to post anything they felt like while others were censored and banned for the same or lesser offending posts.
    The site was then hacked ( by a disgruntled ex member?
    who knows) and some of its parts were lost.
    Active membership plummeted due to the moderation and hacking.
    The mod staff, with no one left to bully, left the board untended.
     
    I would guess this is a cost cutting move and the board will die when its prepaid bandwidth expires or the owner is hoping to regain full control and it will start up as before come fall.
    If it does I wonder if it will  be hacked again?
    I also wonder if the original tech support that is for some reason is no longer with the site (falling out with the owner?, lack of payment?) might have "prevented" the hacking?
     
    I do know I got a very threatening response from one of the mods for simply asking questions about what happened with the membership and saying the heavyhanded moderation didn't seem to work out so well for the site.
    Interesting why he would get so defensive when someone questions a style of moderation that took an active membership from thousands down to dozens.
    Does anyone know the mod called metalhead?
    I asked if he was short and might have a Nepoleon complex but he didn't answer me.
    Certainly he has some kind of authority complex.
     
     
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    Re:another board 2013/05/21 15:52:08 (permalink)
    That is the downfall of many Discussion boards  

     



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    Re:another board 2013/05/21 15:55:40 (permalink)
    All I know is hot tuna was banned many moons ago and quah just lurks but rarely ever posts, or reads the river reports even ..
    Just IMO , they went too fast, too quick and became too hot to handle

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    Re:another board 2013/05/21 16:48:17 (permalink)
    I frequented the site on a daily basis but rarely posted as of late.  When I first joined I had great hopes and expectations that it would lead to positive exchanges of information and perhaps new fishing connections, boy was I wrong.  The sniping from the beginning to today's eventual shut down was absolutely ridiculous to the point where you were chastised for talking about fishing on a fishing website.  A number of people looked to flame posts rather than bring something constructive to the table.  I got to the point where I posted things unrelated to fishing, particularly threads that dealt with Lake Ontario and its tributaries.  If the site rises from the ashes I hope that it is without the acrimony that I observed over the recent past.  My other hope is that the magpies that infected that site don't make their way here.  I've enjoy my short time on this site.  I have learned a great deal from many of the faithful here and hope that I have done the same.
     
    Gerry
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    Re:another board 2013/05/21 17:07:07 (permalink)
    I couldn't get on the site til after my SR fishing was over for the year so I didn't post any reports there.
    If it is back up this fall (and I'm still a member) I will post what I have to report.
    It will be on the open board so anyone that feels like it can comment.
    One persons flaming is another mans helpful comment.
    A lot is in the eye of the beholder and I respect everyones right to call me out if they percieve me as doing something wrong or badly.
    I really don't see what the big deal is with people giving their opinion  even when they are ignorant enough to disagree with me.
     
    I don't give more than very general location info (below or above 2a or Pineville) and since I fish alone 90% of the time my pics consist mostly of fish in shallow water with little to distingish the spot.
     
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    Re:another board 2013/05/21 17:10:14 (permalink)
    There are still lots of people exchanging pics, stories, and info...it just gets done in a much more comfortable, drama free atmosphere. Biased moderation toppled the Titan....it's carcass will be carried away and scattered by wolves until there's nothing left but internet dust. The rest of the site has been reduced to obama jokes and hockey talk.
     
    For those of that have been left behind...Good Luck, God Bless
     
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    Re:another board 2013/05/21 17:32:43 (permalink)
    Are you talking about the general discussion PA board.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYiCjMOipn0&feature=player_detailpage&list=PL8F9E9185534F8143
    post edited by twobob - 2013/05/21 17:41:01
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    Re:another board 2013/05/21 21:33:11 (permalink)
     Tried to join over there - when they talked about fishing.
     After applying and sending a note a few weeks later asking if there had been an error-  continued to wait -with no response of any kind.
     Eventually  sent them a letter saying  even if they asked me politely  would have no part of it- had waited far too long with zero response.
       Guess they hit my zero tolerance level.  Had the impression nobody was watching the barn door.
       Later  it seemed to bottom out- too bad - they used to give some decent reports from some decent sounding fishermen.
    post edited by retired guy - 2013/05/21 21:35:32
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    Re:another board 2013/05/21 22:02:31 (permalink)
    I had been a member for a while, but rarely posted, due to the fear of accidentally saying what color bead or fly I used.   Everything was a spot burn or you were accused of wanting to be spoon fed by asking a simple question.   I am the first to admit that a few folks here spoon fed me some info a few years back  on flies and even a few spots.  Turned me on to getting after the steel.   Too bad there were a few good folks there.  

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    Re:another board 2013/05/21 23:23:23 (permalink)
    Frankly kinda enjoyed some of the back and forth banter between guys who knew how to take it for what it was meant to be . They did know the meaning of a joke over there and didnt get all upset when one was made..
      That seemed fine when fishing was the topic of the verbal jousting and seemed generally in good humor- got to be a bit more personal lately though and it appeared some were taking offense.
     Agree with Clint about the over played spot and offering 'burn' slamming-went too far IMHO too.
     A lot of those guys seemed very dedicated to the SR fishery and put their actions where their words were in that regard too with volunteer work and such.
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    Re:another board 2013/05/22 02:56:27 (permalink)
    Guys watched the fishery explode and blamed the nets.
    Therefore anyone giving info was spoonfeeding and if a location got mentioned its spotburning.
    I went from fishing all day without seeing anyone but Lucky to sitting on the bank waiting for a spot to open and all this before the webs.
     
    Does it make it easy to learn and add to the horde?
    Of course it does.
    No more walking from town to the meadow only to have to bushwack the knotwood bank or wade against 1800 cfs to get back to the starting point.
    Just read and show up.
    Of course all that info is old by the time they get there.
    Some spots produce on a regular daily basis but many are full of fish today and empty in the morning.
    I can see nothing wrong in trying to help someone that shows a genuine interest in in the fishery.
    Better to spoonfeed them at least enough so they're not stumbling around wading thru the holes and generally getting i the way till they learn on their own.
    Iwas lucky enough to have learned at a time when there were few people to get in the way of and the one that was there was kind enough not to mind when I did something dumb.
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    Re:another board 2013/05/22 05:41:55 (permalink)
    Bob, although salmon crowds were heavy when i started in 90, steelhead was not. And the only report youd get before labor day was the douglaston hotline and yes it wax always honest. Early august runs went unfished for the most part. And if there were no fish atleast there were no people...unlike now. By mid october the lower river pressure was cut by 75%.... there were killer days in to late december with only few to sometimes no anglers...and yes you worked for your fish. Techniques were either acquired by trial and error or from seeing other people on the river.... i am grateful for those times and hold them wih me aswe will never see them again... maybe its better off salmon crazy is gone, and i am noticing a trend on other forums of people being a little tight lipped...its not a bad thing... yes, there are no secrets on the salmon river, but forcing people to get out and try in their own could do good for the area itself fishing wise and possibly weed out the people a bit... just my opinion...
    post edited by dimebrite - 2013/05/22 06:53:14
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    Re:another board 2013/05/22 07:04:13 (permalink)
    There really is no good answer and I agree to all that was posted above.   As long as we are good people maybe help out , maybe don't.  That's all that counts.    I can say one thing though.   To all I have met on the river and this board , I do not think there is one guy that would not hesitate to help if approached on the river and asked a question. 

    The gods do not deduct from man's allotted span the hours spent in fishing.  ~Babylonian Proverb

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    Re:another board 2013/05/22 07:25:46 (permalink)
    I honestly enjoyed the place....met great people.....learned alot.....and shared alot....then said the wrong thing and got banned......such is life.....when the fun stops, you move on.
    There is more positive posting here then there was there for a long time.
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    Re:another board 2013/05/22 10:09:35 (permalink)
    Might take some flack on this one but it needs to be said IMHO.
     When talking bout the river and the 'extended' season by fishermen its easy for us to point to our peers posting their experiences.
       Agree that increases pressure but dont rule out the Guide and Tackle shop reports either. They are real big on reporting early and late fish as well as posting clear references to spots and tackle that are 'no nos' by fishermen on various Boards.
     Face it -the fishery is commercialized and those folks are trying to make a living at our  pastime. Extending their season for income purposes as well as assuring a good chance for hookups is in their best interest.
     Not a bad thing IMHO but certainly a large part of the picture.
      If you doubt this just Read the various pro reports that are already posting August  adventure opportunities. We do the same thing.
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    Re:another board 2013/05/22 10:57:55 (permalink)
    Yep, the facts of the fishery
    I've always said you have to enjoy it for what it is....and if you don't or can't, why would you go?
    I'm sure i would not have a place up there, or spend 1-12 weekends a year up on the river, if it were not for the internet getting me tuned in to the fishing.   So, i am part of the problem i guess :)
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    Re:another board 2013/05/22 11:52:50 (permalink)
    SC was getting crazy,very little talk about fishing and a lot of give and take that was getting a bit mean spirted.It needed a break,hopefully it'll come back and be what it was a couple years ago.If not life will go on!
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    Re:another board 2013/05/22 12:59:10 (permalink)
    Got an Email/newsletter from Jim Rusher this morning. Brings back memories of the OLD SR. He was a friend and a great guy as long as he was there always stayed and shopped at his place.
     He has moved on as we know and seems to be doing well in his new fishing adventures.
     
     On the same general page Bear- spend about  5 days a month up there on average. Light in the Winter but at least once a month for a couple of days and heavy in the late Summer into snow.
      Plan on a lot more this upcoming year as am leaving Politics and moving. Will have much more 'quality' time. Finally gonna really Retire.
    post edited by retired guy - 2013/05/22 13:11:23
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    Re:another board 2013/05/22 13:06:04 (permalink)
    Top dog, i suggest yo get somez hambergerrahelpaller.... and ihopa it a heplzayaz



    post edited by dimebrite - 2013/05/22 13:21:19
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    Re:another board 2013/05/22 13:12:23 (permalink)
    Was that Merls or Merls- gonna miss them.
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    Re:another board 2013/05/22 13:31:59 (permalink)
    lol
    i know where alot of the old gang
    happy, linescreamer and such have ended up atleast in the short run
     
    yep retired, if i ever do i am thinking i might move up there
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    Re:another board 2013/05/22 16:01:20 (permalink)
    Way too much Winter for me- Visits are my limit.
      That said 15 or 20 miles North or South or closer to the lake are much more tolerable than the 'Lake Effect' region.
    post edited by retired guy - 2013/05/22 16:03:42
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    Re:another board 2013/05/22 17:31:53 (permalink)
    topdog99

    yu intrAvertz take this **** 2 sereeisly
    hate 2 say it

    but geta life
    buNch of crybabys

    dUDe?
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    Re:another board 2013/05/22 19:02:49 (permalink)
    dOoD........

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    Re:another board 2013/05/22 19:41:47 (permalink)


    Good evening and over & out on this thread for me
    post edited by hot tuna - 2013/05/22 21:10:37

    "whats that smell like fish oh baby" .. J. Kaukonen
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    Re:another board 2013/05/22 21:12:50 (permalink)
    What can I say folks I am a traitor... just go fishin bottom line
    post edited by dimebrite - 2013/05/22 21:42:11
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    Re:another board 2013/05/22 21:41:30 (permalink)
    Apparently missed the edited thread but gotta say- some  can get more satisfaction out of one fish landed or even hooked and well fought in a day or even a nice day afield with nothing  caught than some seem to get outa a basket full. Even when it happens when your all alone someplace and no one else know about it - unless ya think your in some kinda contest.
     It aint the numbers but the quality of experience that counts. IMHO.
     Old timer once told me' even a skipper with the bow can be a trophy' --never forgot that line- similar  philosophy.
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