Clint S
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Would this be legal
Just wondering in the Zones. Articulated fly, top part being a bead lower part being lets say a stony fly. It technically would be one fly. Just wondering
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Re:Would this be legal
2012/10/23 19:12:47
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One hook, it's legal. I use them. I tie the rear nymph on stainless wire .
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Re:Would this be legal
2012/10/24 07:09:49
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Looking at the regs, if the bead is on the shank, shoudl be legal. If it is on the line, not legal in the fly zones. Bead becomes unweighted beadhead! But what is this thing with beads, why not just a yarn ball or small glo bug? L13
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Re:Would this be legal
2012/10/24 17:22:18
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well yes a bead not attached in some way to the hook without material is not legal in the fly zones. I will say this.. They are a cheap easy high, they do work when you fish them be it correct in the fly zone or other areas .. Sometimes better then some yarn or glo bug material.. Why ? I don't know why.. Do you need them away from the hook ? Nope, not really..
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Clint S
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Re:Would this be legal
2012/10/24 18:30:13
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Was thinking something like this. It's articulated so some movement. Maybe the bead a size smaller. I suck at tying yarn balls. I do have some pegged to a hook with a tiny little veil over it too.
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Re:Would this be legal
2012/10/24 19:01:08
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Clint thanks for the pic.. Id say fish it.. Fish it and it will catch fish.. Intent, intent is what its about to me.. Regs are for those with bad intent.. Too many regs spoil the fun for those trying to fool the fish instead of the fishers.
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Re:Would this be legal
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Lucky13
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Re:Would this be legal
2012/10/25 07:35:51
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hot tuna
Clint thanks for the pic.. Id say fish it.. Fish it and it will catch fish.. Intent, intent is what its about to me.. Regs are for those with bad intent.. Too many regs spoil the fun for those trying to fool the fish instead of the fishers.
I agree whole heartedly, Tuna, but a few years back on Irondequoit Creek, I was fishing to a fish I could see in one of the riffs of the falls stretch, and I had a warden come over and tell me he thought i was trying to lift the fish. I told him that I was fishing to the only visible fish around as opposed to walking around and fishing the water to either invisible or non existent fish, and that if I was trying to lift the fish, I would have been done 20 minutes earlier. He left me alone after that, but I think they would as readily write you or me for a misplaced bead as some heavy weight C+Der repeatedly lifting and releasing in the Fly Zone. No beef with the ECO's either, it is a tough job, there are always little grey areas, and they can certainly have their hands full on tribs like the Genesee where they get no support from the judges, and they need to speak Russian and Spanish to communicate with the "anglers." L13
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Re:Would this be legal
2012/10/25 11:17:24
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That Genesee sounds like a place that I will continue to avoid.In fact it sounds quite a bit like Allentown Pa minus the Russians.
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Re:Would this be legal
2012/10/25 17:54:28
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I had a great time on the Little Lehigh in Allentown once. The Genesee is in an urban center, low income area, and it gets a lot of " subsistence" types. I tend to only go when there is a lot of other activity and people around. It can be good water, but it'll never be wilderness! L13
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Re:Would this be legal
2012/10/25 18:06:42
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The Little Lehigh used to be a prime brown trout stream,but then "progress" hit the upper section and it has been going downhill since.The last 5-6 yrs it really has degraded,when were you there?The lower river right in down town Allentown used to have a large population of lunker Browns but a shot of cyanide from Mack Trucks wiped them out,they never recovered.Now you have to pack a weapon to go down there.
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Lucky13
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Re:Would this be legal
2012/10/25 18:10:56
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Ouch! It was quite a while ago, and it was upstream in a petting zoo downstream from a hatchery, but it was loaded with huge fish, there was a ngood hatch of mayflies, and there were also 17 year cicadas hatching, so the big fish were going after big stuff on top. Above the Gennie gorge there are some places that I do not want to break down in, but A town sounds scary! L13
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Re:Would this be legal
2012/10/25 18:46:24
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Funny how a bead is illegal but people put 4 3/0 on a leader and it sits on the bottom and when the angler sees a fish he back cast and boom fish on and no ticket. Even this year with the low flows people still had way to much shot on. Maybe my spots but I didn't see any DEC this year I wouldn't want their job
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Re:Would this be legal
2012/10/25 23:08:00
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Lucky,you were fishing on the Heritage section,C&R flyfishing only.I USED to frequent that area but lost interest as the fish today run alot smaller and way fewer of them.I do however walk my dog there a couple times a week Don't want to give you the wrong impression of Atown,it's not that bad but there are areas you want to avoid just like most cities today.
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Re:Would this be legal
2012/10/26 07:07:29
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Sorry to hear about the decline, it was quite an experience, nothing like it in NY at the time. AS to bad spots to be in, the ball park area about 5 weeks could have been a little hairy!LOL. Don't get drowned by Sandy this week. 2B and me went up back in the early 80's one year for a week ans by the end of the week, where were standing at the edge of the Balck Hole on day 1 was 7 feet deep. That river can really ROAR! L13
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Re:Would this be legal
2012/10/28 15:24:51
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I'm just wondering after reading lucky13 comments about a warden suspicious of him lifting to snag. Do they know there is a difference in sports angler using different methods and technics or just picking on avid or expert anglers ? I mean how does one argue if a warden convicts one for lifting ? I would probably tear up any such summons and never return to Pulaski if I had even a close encounter with such agencies..Can't imagine that goes over well anywhere in the state but, than the sr is a zoo of all kinds of experts.
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Re:Would this be legal
2012/10/28 15:35:19
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Not to bust this thread but, I do not bother with many other threads on fish usa. I just returned from four day fishing trip and two of us C&R only a few using plugs /jigs/ and trolled a few eye smb crappie and perch. I was wondering if fishing was also slow upstate where most here fish? Although the weather was warm and perfect everyday,, the fishing was surprisingly slow..not much top water action but the action was slow in the deep as well.. most action was shallow between main drops and shoreline. I think it might have been a poor lunar period and I suppose the pressure was falling but all four days? Anyway , hope next week fairs better after this crazy storm.
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