Clint S
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Books and reels
Any good books on salmon river steel or salmon , getting a Christmas list together and anything I can find used on Amazon would be great. I searched the forum , but could not find the name. Something like great lakes salmon and steelhead or something like that Now for the reel. I am looking to upgrade a bit from my Okuma SLV. I want to stay at around $100 (I know it's not much) I am thinking of a Pfleuger 1990 which say will take up to an 10 weight line. I like my pole which is an 8 weight, but would prefer something bigger for salmon. So I figure with this reel I could use 8 wgt line with my current pole and upgrade to 10 wgt line on another spool if I get a 10 wgt pole. First is this reel an upgrade from my current one and is it a good idea to go with the 1990 (up to 10 wgt) or should I go with the 1978 (up to 8 weight). Is the only real difference diameter of spool??? Figure I could just add backing to take up the extra room if needed. thanks
post edited by Clint S - 2012/10/10 20:57:43
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troutbum21
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Check out Amato Publications, www.amatobooks.com. A good source for flyfishing magazines and books. The other is Nick Lyons Press, www.lyonspress.com.
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bp is clearancing their osprey reel which was made as a special order from orvis...they tell me its the same exact reel and its down to 70, the orvis equivelent is over 200
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Clint, TB is right about the Rags.. Frank has lots of publication about SST.. Mostly west coast stuff but great reads.. As for the Pfleuger: Make sure you check out the drag knob.. I have a very old supreme 1980 that has a big knurled drag.. Great for gripping.. It's around 15 years old.. Drag is smoked for salmon and will not lock down any longer but I still like and use it for steel or browns.. Also have a newer but discontinued (for the trion) Summit 1690.. Holds a ton of line but the drag knob SUCKS.. It's more rounded and smooth making the grip stink to adjust.. It will hold salmon well but tough to grip with cold wet fingers.. Most of the pfluegers I see have the same smooth drag knob.. Sadly I broke my favorite reel an Orvis BK mid arbor IV.. Great reel but now discontinued as well. My advice is to check it out in hand before buying.. Albrights suck.. Way cheap materials.. (I have parts to 2 that wont make 1) The lamson reels seem nice too and that may be my next reel purchase for the money..
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Lucky13
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Clint- I don't understand why you want to go to a heavier line. Even if you get a 10 wt rod for Salmon, most rods can handle up or down a line size, and for normal conditions you'll be using a little shot or beadhead, so why the big line? If you were needing to cast a long way with a huge fly, maybe a 10 is necessary, but for most of the salmon river, an 8 will cover the water and handle the flies and weight. Maybe a bigger rod, but the extra capacity (unless you want it for backing or running line)? L13
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As far as drags go, Lamson's are hard to beat. I've been fishing their reels for 25+in the salt and fresh and they've been great. I also use some Orvis Demo reels that I get for a song, but that's another story. Lamson makes the Konic, which is a cast reel , though very well machined to good tolerances, and uses the same sealed bearings and ramped drag as the 300+ models. Excellent performance for the money. Everybody that I've talked to that uses them give them a thumbs up from striper guys to steel. Well worth looking into. Just a few bucks more than you want to spend and Waterworks/Lamson are great with repairs and warranties if you need them. Lucky also brings up a good point- I used an 8 wt. steel/salmon taper on my fast 9 wt. for Kings. I had no trouble doing anything I wanted with it, from swinging big bunny flies to dead drifting little stuff. I have a 10 wt. double taper I'll use too, but it really is no great advantage. I'm not throwing 12" herring flies that I normally would use a 10 wt. line for. Your line can do double duty for steel and salmon. I upline my 7 wt. with the 8 line for steel, because it handles everything, including my occasional use of indicators/shot/fly rigs and swinging big flies, and it'll do the same with a 9 or 10. Use your old reel as a spare and get a good reel with a good drag, you'll enjoy it. There's some books by Matt Supinski , Steelhead Dreams and a Pocket Orvis Guide for GL Steel and Salmon I've read excerpts from on the net, in mags and in an Orvis store, and they pretty well cover GL steel and salmon. Might be worth a look. PS. The 8 wt' size Konics are on sale for 100 bucks now. Charlie
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Clint S
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See that's why I post here to get the info I need. Guess I was just thinking if I go with another reel why not go up. Now I am thinking not so much on that and may stick with a 8 reel. I do have an extra 7 wt pole here so I could have a decent spare. My biggest trouble (and some goes to inexperience) is thinking I need a bit more "backbone" with the pole for salmon (I really like the pole for the steel). Maybe a 9 wt pole with the new 8 reel at some point. I have never felt I could not cast the flies I use. Thanks guys I will research and keep you posted.
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Clint S
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books trey combs steelhead. all you really need. had a copy for twenty years before i lent it to a moose of a friend who i haven't seen since. have to get another copy because i used to read it every year for pure reading pleasure a steelhead paradise by john something or other. (edit i just went and found the book the man's name is john f fennelly.) one of the first fishing some of the hallowed waters of b c when it meant getting off the train and hiking thru bear country to camp and fish.
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Lucky13
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Also Trey Combs Steelhead Flies and Fishing, which is (was?) an Amato Publication, and is paperback. But I don't get out much, maybe Steelhead was also released in paperback for less than the original hardcover, which as a first edition will set you back over 100 bucks if you can find one now. L13
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well then maybe i won't go looking for a replacement. by now i should be able to recite it like the book people in fahrenheit 451.
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That's the one, Clint. I'd look at the 4, which suits 9-10 wts. Steel/salmon and Spey Lines, or even Double Tapers, take up more space than a weight forward fly line; and there's the bonus of having more room between the reel and the frame and taking up line a little more quickly .They do not seem to be freeze-up prone, with the sealed bearings. Only thing I'll warn you about: With any cast reels, DO NOT just throw them on the ground as I'm sure as a mechanic, you know what happens to castings compared to parts machined from bar stock. I had a friend who threw his up on a rock bank in Ca. trying to land a big rainbow and it bent the edge of the spool. Lamson replaced the spool, but it took time and postage. Charlie
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