hunting101
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buying my first muzzleloader
I am thinking of buying a muzzleloader for hunting next year in order to an additional hunting season available. Any advice on what to buy? Money won't be a substantial issue for this purchase. So all advice is welcome and needed. What are the adavantages to the cheaper priced guns over the expensive ones? They both shoot. Thanks
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RE: buying my first muzzleloader
2007/12/29 02:43:01
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My buddy has a Thompson Firestorm i shot a few times, idk alot about muzzleloading but a few people i know that have 1 say their good guns, the few shots i fired i did pretty good for not being expierienced and i liked it alot and might have to invest in 1 in the future.
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RE: buying my first muzzleloader
2007/12/29 12:17:58
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Any of the T/C guns will be worth the money. I've been using the same T/C Renegade since 79. If you have access to some guns already(friends/family) shoot them and ask lots of ?'s
I like the feel of wooden stocks but if I was to get a new one it would probaly be a Firestrorm in stainless for the ease of cleaning(removable breech plug).
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RE: buying my first muzzleloader
2007/12/30 21:14:30
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I have the TC Firestorm and it is a reliable gun that will go off if you keep it clean. You do not have to shoot the gun to unload it like alot of others. It has a removeable breech plug.
The downside is it's horrible trigger. Probably around 9# or so.
I have hunted with too many guys with cheap Traditions or CVA's that have had many a misfire. I would buy a TC, Lyman or RMC. More expensive but the money is well spent.
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RE: buying my first muzzleloader
2007/12/31 10:14:49
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while your buying it, buy a CO2 load discharger. I bought one severl years ago and it is great.
its also a time saver.
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hunting101
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RE: buying my first muzzleloader
2007/12/31 11:05:13
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mak,
what exactly is a CO2 load discharger? Is something to remove an unfired shot?
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RE: buying my first muzzleloader
2007/12/31 11:24:42
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dpms,
Can the trigger wheight be adjusted? Are all CVA and Traditions rifles junk? I was thinking of possibly getting a gun that could I interchange the barrells with. Are there any choices other than T/C, CVA, and Knight? Is this a good idea or not? Extra barrells can be expensive, but still a little less than a new gun. Though I do like the idea of buying another new gun. I doubt that will ever make me flinch. Also, who is RMC? Is that Remington? If not what do you think about the Remington Genesis? Thanks for your time and advice, Ryan.
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RE: buying my first muzzleloader
2007/12/31 12:20:05
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Hunting101,
Maybe I need a little clarification. Are you looking for a flintlock for the after Christmas hunt or an inline for the October hunt?
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RE: buying my first muzzleloader
2007/12/31 12:45:27
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RMC is Rightnour muzzleloading . A verry knowledgable bunch when it comes to blackpowder shoting.Their located up in Mingoville Pa. I've personally done alot of research them,and their rifles. They make a Accusporter LTD pro in 50 cal that will drive tacks at 80yds Its a cutom flintloc that sells for $599. And I can Guarantee I'll have one for next year Check them out at www.rmcsports.com
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RE: buying my first muzzleloader
2007/12/31 14:52:41
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I bought a Firestorm 2 yrs ago and had the trigger lightend and a largher touch hole put in it for $30, it made a big difference with the trigger pull, and going off.
thats a good fish, they are all good, some are gooder than others
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RE: buying my first muzzleloader
2007/12/31 17:13:01
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I own a knight extreme and would recommend it to anyone. Knight has a new model out that has separate barrels to add to it. Once they come out w/ a shotgun and rifle combo, that will be my next purchase. W/ any of the models you choose look at the ease of cleaning, disassembling, and does it feel good in your hands(comfortable). For powder I use triple seven pellets, the pyodex is not as clean and contains more sulfur. I'm using 100 gr. powder w/ 250 gr. saboted bullet.
W/ the knight you can get a 2 part scope mount. There is a screw down base and a 2 part ring section that mounts to the scope and then fastens to the bases. These are removable scope style mounts. You rotate a lever 180deg. to release the scope from the base and rotate it 180 to refasten. This will bring the scope back to zero, every time. I remove move scope to clean the gun and remount the scope back. Never has it lost zero, these are not like the old weaver design that you flip to the side. This gives you the option of using the iron sights.
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RE: buying my first muzzleloader
2008/01/01 13:39:28
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To All,
I do need to clarify. I am looking for an inline rifle for all hunts. I live in Illinois. We have 2 firearm seasons which allow for shotgun, handgun (center fire only), or muzzleloader (rifle). We also have a seperate muzzleloader season 1 week after the second firearm season. All three of these long weekeknd seasons are within the rut, generally speaking. Then in mid-January there is late season firearm season in wich all previous firearms listed are included plus the addition of using a muzzleloading handgun. I have no interest in using a muzzleloading handgun at this time. We do not have a centerfire rifle season for deer in Illinois. However, we can hunt coyates with just about anything and hunters here are strongly encouraged to do so. That is one reason I was thinking of something that could interchange barrells. Though the barrell thing is not a neccessary option, just an extra bonus if it is the right thing to buy.
In selecting a muzzleloader do you generally get what you pay for? Also, what are some key features to look for? Which burns better, pellets or loose powder? Which one burns cleaner? Are there any brands of powder to stay away from? Other than only one shot what are the other challenges to muzzleloader hunting? Any other hunting advice would be greatly appreciated as I am only 2 years into hunting and eager to learn as much as possible.
Thanks to everyone responding!
Ryan
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RE: buying my first muzzleloader
2008/01/01 15:01:38
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ORIGINAL: hunting101
To All,
I do need to clarify. I am looking for an inline rifle for all hunts. I live in Illinois. We have 2 firearm seasons which allow for shotgun, handgun (center fire only), or muzzleloader (rifle). We also have a seperate muzzleloader season 1 week after the second firearm season. All three of these long weekeknd seasons are within the rut, generally speaking. Then in mid-January there is late season firearm season in wich all previous firearms listed are included plus the addition of using a muzzleloading handgun. I have no interest in using a muzzleloading handgun at this time. We do not have a centerfire rifle season for deer in Illinois. However, we can hunt coyates with just about anything and hunters here are strongly encouraged to do so. That is one reason I was thinking of something that could interchange barrells. Though the barrell thing is not a neccessary option, just an extra bonus if it is the right thing to buy.
In selecting a muzzleloader do you generally get what you pay for? Also, what are some key features to look for? Which burns better, pellets or loose powder? Which one burns cleaner? Are there any brands of powder to stay away from? Other than only one shot what are the other challenges to muzzleloader hunting? Any other hunting advice would be greatly appreciated as I am only 2 years into hunting and eager to learn as much as possible.
Thanks to everyone responding!
Ryan
Heres my 2 cents... Muzzleloaders are all DIRTY DIRTY GUNS! I owned a traditions, and it was very nice in my opinion, I sold it cause i hated cleaning it. Pellets are always a good choice for an inline, you can load a lot faster, its less of a mess. Key features I would want if I ever bought another one... Fiber Optic Sights Break Breach, like a single shot shotgun... no bolt to clean Quick Release To Take Off The Barrel (Dont know if this exists) I would never buy a muzzleloader that has a bolt again!
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RE: buying my first muzzleloader
2008/01/01 15:05:02
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RE: buying my first muzzleloader
2008/01/01 19:43:03
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To All,
I do need to clarify. I am looking for an inline rifle for all hunts. I live in Illinois.
Well that does change things. My experience is strictly with flintlocks so I will not be much help.
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RE: buying my first muzzleloader
2008/01/01 19:56:42
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My experience is also mainly flintlock.I own a traditions inline but it is a cheap one(shoots nice though for as much as I use it ) but a good friend has a T/C encore with .270 and .50 cal barrels and it shoots like a dream. It will be the way I go when I purchase my next inline.
Mike
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RE: buying my first muzzleloader
2008/01/01 20:07:55
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Jeremy, you just described the TC Firestorm
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RE: buying my first muzzleloader
2008/01/01 20:09:58
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Since you said money is not a big issue in this purchase, I will recommend the TC Pro Hunter. It is one of the nicest Inlines on the market and also has the interchangable barrels. I think some other companys make similar rifles now, but I have not fired any of them so I cannot say how good they are. TC builds an excellent rifle and their customer service is top notch. Good Luck.
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RE: buying my first muzzleloader
2008/01/01 20:44:18
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Is there any difference between the Encore and the Pro Hunter by T/C? What kind of diferences are there between inline and flintlockand caplock?
Thanks Fellas
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