What a difference two days made.

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2012/09/09 13:05:20 (permalink)

What a difference two days made.

Well wanted to be the first guy to the spot had a feeling they would be there, wrong. Fished mid river again today what a difference from friday. I managed two kings but only saw three other fish in 5 hours of fishing, my buddy saw 5 and didnt get a take at all. Basically fished from ellis cove to pineville bridge there is not alot of fish up top today, the two I landed hit ran about 30 yards shook their heads a few times then rolled over and played dead, they were still silver just had no fight in them at all. The three lots I went by on the way home had 10 cars at least in each of them, lots a folks walking around and hunting for fish, cant get up again till friday hope it picks up a little by then.
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    Re:What a difference two days made. 2012/09/09 13:56:38 (permalink)
    Upriver seems to always be tough this early- but you do get to fish without any crowds which can the be the best  reward.
     Fish down low the other day were tired after the first run as well. My first was big and ran up and well into my backing in a nanosecond. Figured 'game on' but the run ended and so did the  fight.
      Tend to go heavy this early in warm water so as to make it quick and then revive the fish. Use a 10 wt South Fork with 12 lb Drennan leader. Figure with all the exposed rocks the leader must be a bit heavier and the heavy stuff gets the fight over quicker..
      Hate to go light and end up with a longer fight and fish that go belly up and stay that way. Will go lighter in cooler higher waters.
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    Re:What a difference two days made. 2012/09/09 14:25:49 (permalink)
    Retired, totally agree with the fast fight and revive method. I was useing 10 lb segar floro tippet, actually my hole leader is segar starting with 20 down to 10 as for the rod, I firmley believe in cheap tackle for salmon as I have seen many times what they can do to your gear. I am on my 3rd season with a 9' 8 weight redbone with a cheap 7/8 weight cabelas prestige real and the kicker is I reuse my 5 weight dry fly line for the salmon. I have three rods rigged this way for friends and who ever might need one. Since I take alot of first timers fishing if something does happen to a set up Im only out 100 bucks.
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    Re:What a difference two days made. 2012/09/09 14:47:05 (permalink)
    With the warm water you probably should keep them now,I would imagine they're still edible if they are silver.
    Looks like the temps are finally going to cool off.
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    Re:What a difference two days made. 2012/09/09 14:55:05 (permalink)
    Pa I wouldnt eat a mudshark if it was fresh out of the ocean! Haddock, walleye and perch are the only fish Ill eat. Temps are suppose to be in the low 70s during the days this week but rain is still the major need.
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    Re:What a difference two days made. 2012/09/09 16:20:12 (permalink)
    Fan --also keep 3 10 wts around  -use my 8 wt during the season as it progresses.- Hey -they callem MUD Sharks cause they taste like mud. Would rather spend half an hour reviving one that trying to cook it- or just give it away it it cant be revived. Always somebody around sayin how GREAT they taste- always wonder what else they eat.  Ya know -road side Opossum and such.lol.
    post edited by retired guy - 2012/09/09 16:23:23
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    Re:What a difference two days made. 2012/09/09 16:27:47 (permalink)
    chartist1

    It's about six weeks too early to expect upstream action

    Funny you should say that but have had very good days many times early season upstream. Where do you think the bursts of fish go after they leave the dsr?
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    Re:What a difference two days made. 2012/09/09 18:31:20 (permalink)
    3fan

    Pa I wouldnt eat a mudshark if it was fresh out of the ocean! Haddock, walleye and perch are the only fish Ill eat. Temps are suppose to be in the low 70s during the days this week but rain is still the major need.

     
    Yea I know what you mean,I have n't kept a Salmon from NY for many years as they do taste like mud.However,these same fish from the pacific ocean are very good if you can buy them fresh.
    I just had Haddock on Friday.Walleye,perch and don't forget crappies are very,very good.
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    Re:What a difference two days made. 2012/09/09 18:34:33 (permalink)
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    chartist1

    It's about six weeks too early to expect upstream action

    Funny you should say that but have had very good days many times early season upstream. Where do you think the bursts of fish go after they leave the dsr?

     
    You have to excuse chartist....he's from Ohio so what does he know?

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    Re:What a difference two days made. 2012/09/09 18:39:39 (permalink)
    3man , also on the lake.. At least you got to play with a few.. i walked some of the river aimless yesterday afternoon then fell asleep trying to watch the big Chase Late night race..
     
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    Re:What a difference two days made. 2012/09/09 20:20:11 (permalink)
    Fished above the ballpark today and tangled with 3 kings right after sun up and that was it. By lunchtime any fish I saw which was **** few were all heading downstream. Plus it looked like the water dropped about 2" since the morning. Really wasn't worth the tank of gas for me today.
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    Re:What a difference two days made. 2012/09/09 20:27:02 (permalink)
    Sept Kings are  kinda like the Mickey Mouse Club on Tuesday from when I was a kid - longgggg time ago when TV was black and white and all the guys were in love with Annette Funichello.
      That was 'anything can happen " day.
    post edited by retired guy - 2012/09/09 20:28:59
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    Re:What a difference two days made. 2012/09/09 20:33:13 (permalink)
    Oh I know all about the first half of September. But what surprised me the most was October size crowds. That's what shut down most upstream fish movement. Did I miss the "hey there's a major run going on" banner? For those of you who stood in the middle of the river and chained across the staircase, (witnessed) thank you for messing it up for others. Let the games begin!
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    Re:What a difference two days made. 2012/09/09 20:37:04 (permalink)
    With the low water thats gonna happen on  of each and every run in the river.
     Was up above Tressel last year and it happened several times when water levels allowed it.
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    Re:What a difference two days made 2012/09/10 06:58:59 (permalink)
    3fan its too bad i missed ya, maybe next time. On saturday there were quite a few off the altmar bridge in the afternoon. these were the fish from early last week which we're slow movers. I hit Douglaston yesterday morning and managed to hook 3 and land them all. there weren't too many fish but there were enough. There's a big difference in yesterday's fish that came in though. They were running much more rather than resting like last week fish. Also there fighting much more aggressively. We are getting down into the mid 30 tonight. This is going to continue to get down the river temperatures as well as the lake surface temperatures. This could bring some fish back out from the deeper waters in the lake and could set it up for a decent Mid week... as for the upper reservoir let's just keep our fingers crossed as there is no rain in the forecast right now
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    Re:What a difference two days made 2012/09/10 08:17:07 (permalink)
    where did you fish in the dsr?
    their site says the upper parts have been best the last coule of days.
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    Re:What a difference two days made 2012/09/10 08:40:20 (permalink)
    twobob

    where did you fish in the dsr?
    their site says the upper parts have been best the last coule of days.


    I was in the middle section
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    Re:What a difference two days made 2012/09/10 09:04:07 (permalink)
    that was supposed to be pretty good from what they said.
    they said middle and upper parts were best.
    do you think it could have been a matter timing or wishful thinking on their part?
     
    was thinking of making a solo trip tomorrow but now i'm wondering if stumbling around on my own is worth the gas.
    another site says deeper holes above town are holding lots of fish but the guy that posted it said few were biting.
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    Re:What a difference two days made 2012/09/10 09:09:03 (permalink)
    What I seen sat afternoon . The majority of guys were slaying / again proper term/ from the little black up.
    Not many fish made it through that gauntlet .

    If it were me , I would still fish from the flats to the glide..

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    Re:What a difference two days made 2012/09/10 09:40:34 (permalink)
    i was kind of hoping to avoid the fee and fish somewhere above the dsr.
    i see on the maps that there are some holes around rt2a.
    that was more what i had in mind.
    do you think it will be less crowded on a tues?
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    Re:What a difference two days made 2012/09/10 12:37:05 (permalink)
    Two last week Tues-Thursday was really good, low fishermen numbers and fish were moving more freely. I was blown away by the mayhem in the village over this past weekend. If I could get the sniffles and call in I would be there tomorrow and say the heck with the weekends.
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    Re:What a difference two days made 2012/09/10 14:01:23 (permalink)
    twobob, just hit it right above the dsr at the black hole....that way you save the $45 and if any fish survive the dsr squad you get first crack :)
     
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    Re:What a difference two days made 2012/09/10 14:37:47 (permalink)
    That's where the squad from another forum has been setting up. It was very crowded there in the heavy water. It was a weekend though but still some of those folks fish there every day so I'd assume there will be a crowd from here on out.


    Funny thing , nobody except those 2 guys I spoke with we're fishing the black hole itself. They were catching chubs.


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    Re:What a difference two days made 2012/09/10 23:47:58 (permalink)
    Big Bear- Did DSR drop the C+R policy?
    HT- Are you sure they weren't Fallfish? The SR has some world class fallfish fishing with dry flies!
     
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    Re:What a difference two days made 2012/09/11 03:58:50 (permalink)
    i think the c& r policy is only for trout.
     
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    Re:What a difference two days made 2012/09/11 05:52:19 (permalink)
    what are fallfish?
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    Re:What a difference two days made 2012/09/11 06:21:34 (permalink)
    a large freshwater cyprinid fish. semotilus corporalis resembling a chub.
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    Re:What a difference two days made 2012/09/11 06:38:30 (permalink)
    i dont fish the dsr myself, but as i understand it their catch and release is only for trout
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