Bogeyjoker
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Re:one stands out
2012/06/27 07:43:24
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That's not a blue...just a different pigment in the walleye skin.
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Re:one stands out
2012/06/27 08:27:54
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Agree with Bogeyjoker. I vote it's not a true blue pike, just a bluish colored walleye. Not all that rare, but not really common either. The only way to really find out is DNA testing I guess. I doubt there's any blue pike left in the lake(as they are said to be extinct), but ya never know, it's a big pretty lake.
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Re:one stands out
2012/06/27 09:01:43
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topdog99
walleyehunter53
I have cought my share of steel in the lake and streams and that was not a steelhead beleve what you want though.thats your right too.
walleyehunter you are correkt it is def. not a steelhed...
i think blue pike
if not than a yello pike that stylin' blue
like me
blues so haRd yu think i was krippin'
hopethishelpaz
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Re:one stands out
2012/06/27 09:25:48
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Bogeyjoker
That's not a blue...just a different pigment in the walleye skin.
IDK dude. I've never seen one that color before. According to all of the descriptions of a blue that I could find, that fish would fit. Of course, withought scientific testing, we'll never know for sure. ONe thing we do know is that it's not a steelhead or a coho. LOL!
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Re:one stands out
2012/06/27 10:14:32
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There was one caught out of Conny last year it was as blue as any I had ever seen, I mean BLUE the ODNR took it and tested it, no trace of blue pike genes straight up Mr. Waldo, also the BP were a lot smaller fish most didnt reach 20".
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Bogeyjoker
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Re:one stands out
2012/06/27 11:03:41
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There are a LOT of lakes in Canada that have "blue walleye". They have been tested over and over again and are not "blue pike"...just a pigment variance in the walleye. As nuke says...the blue pike were more like blue jumbo perch than walleye.
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Re:one stands out
2012/06/27 11:14:27
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Bogeyjoker
There are a LOT of lakes in Canada that have "blue walleye". They have been tested over and over again and are not "blue pike"...just a pigment variance in the walleye. As nuke says...the blue pike were more like blue jumbo perch than walleye.
No kidding? Cool. Thanks for the education. See, I still learn something new every day. It's one of the best things about this site. Lots to learn 'cause nobody knows it all. I'd like to catch one of those blue walleye though. It would be nifty.
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Re:one stands out
2012/06/27 11:24:39
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"If you ever get hit with a bucket of fish, be sure to close your eyes." ><)))*>
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Re:one stands out
2012/06/27 11:33:53
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slabdaddy
Bogeyjoker
There are a LOT of lakes in Canada that have "blue walleye". They have been tested over and over again and are not "blue pike"...just a pigment variance in the walleye. As nuke says...the blue pike were more like blue jumbo perch than walleye.
No kidding? Cool. Thanks for the education. See, I still learn something new every day. It's one of the best things about this site. Lots to learn 'cause nobody knows it all. I'd like to catch one of those blue walleye though. It would be nifty.
The thing is...out of Lake Erie it's easier to tell the difference. When you're fishing many Canadian shield lakes or rivers...they are just jam packed with walleye that are in that 12-16" range which was average adult size of the blue pike. And if the lake has a population of the genetic pigment deviation, it's easy to think you've caught a blue pike.
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Re:one stands out
2012/06/27 12:32:26
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walleyehunter53
hers I nice oic. from last saterday out of the nut in 47 and 51 foot of water.
Very nice! Is that sweet corn in the right rear corner of the truck? Where are you getting it fresh this time of year? Are you from the southern part of the state?
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Re:one stands out
2012/06/27 12:45:14
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cbeagler
Is that sweet corn in the right rear corner of the truck? Where are you getting it fresh this time of year?
There was a stand set up on Peach Street yesterday, just above the I-90 ramp.
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Re:one stands out
2012/06/27 13:12:27
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that corn is from masons on the west side of erie they also got a stand by the bay front . they got cuz in w. virginia that ships it to them.
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Re:one stands out
2012/06/27 15:51:17
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I caught those on the East side a couple of years a go. I don't recall catching any with that pigmentation before. I pasted in something relevant below (the underlining is mine). I don't know if it's been published, but that would be easy enough to find out.
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Stepien, C.A, M. Coburn, and T. Cavender., Genetic and morphological identity of the "extinct" blue pike Stizostedion glaucum: Endemism, speciation, and divergence in the lower Great Lakes
In Preparation for Molecular Phylogenetics and Evolution.
Abstract This study investigated the population genetic and phylogeographic patterns of walleye (Stizostedion vitreum) in the Great Lakes using mitochondrial and nuclear DNA markers. We tested spawning site populations in Lake Erie in comparison with samples of walleye from throughout the Great Lakes. We sequenced the entire mitochondrial DNA control region and assayed six microsatellite loci for 400 walleye. Results from the control region and the microsatellite loci were largely congruent, supporting the hypothesis of spawning site philopatry. We found significant differences among spawning sites of walleye and fidelity among years and between the sexes. The divergence patterns among sites were correlated with glacial refugium recolonization patterns. We also compared genetic variation in the "extinct" blue pike (Stizostedion glaucum) from historic samples with modern-day blue-colored walleye, as well as with "normal" yellow walleye (Stizostedion vitreum). We conducted morphological comparisons among these taxa in conjunction with Dr. Miles Coburn (John Carroll University) and Dr. Ted Cavender (Ohio State University), in addition to analyzing the DNA markers. We found that modern-day blue walleye are not historic blue pike, and are not genetically distinguishable from yellow walleye. We are still completing the historic blue pike portion of the study, and have been successful at obtaining sequence data from the historic material.
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Re:one stands out
2012/06/27 16:28:36
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Crowded Out
I caught those on the East side a couple of years a go. I don't recall catching any with that pigmentation before. I pasted in something relevant below (the underlining is mine). I don't know if it's been published, but that would be easy enough to find out.
Take care,
C.O.
Stepien, C.A, M. Coburn, and T. Cavender., Genetic and morphological identity of the "extinct" blue pike Stizostedion glaucum: Endemism, speciation, and divergence in the lower Great Lakes
In Preparation for Molecular Phylogenetics and Evolution.
Abstract This study investigated the population genetic and phylogeographic patterns of walleye (Stizostedion vitreum) in the Great Lakes using mitochondrial and nuclear DNA markers. We tested spawning site populations in Lake Erie in comparison with samples of walleye from throughout the Great Lakes. We sequenced the entire mitochondrial DNA control region and assayed six microsatellite loci for 400 walleye. Results from the control region and the microsatellite loci were largely congruent, supporting the hypothesis of spawning site philopatry. We found significant differences among spawning sites of walleye and fidelity among years and between the sexes. The divergence patterns among sites were correlated with glacial refugium recolonization patterns. We also compared genetic variation in the "extinct" blue pike (Stizostedion glaucum) from historic samples with modern-day blue-colored walleye, as well as with "normal" yellow walleye (Stizostedion vitreum). We conducted morphological comparisons among these taxa in conjunction with Dr. Miles Coburn (John Carroll University) and Dr. Ted Cavender (Ohio State University), in addition to analyzing the DNA markers. We found that modern-day blue walleye are not historic blue pike, and are not genetically distinguishable from yellow walleye. We are still completing the historic blue pike portion of the study, and have been successful at obtaining sequence data from the historic material.
Cool. Still learning. Bogey, that makes sense. I didn't realize that the blue pike were so small.
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