Shades Beach Harbor to be fixed...

Author
wilbur_83
Expert Angler
  • Total Posts : 402
  • Reward points: 0
  • Joined: 2004/03/02 13:05:20
  • Location: Beaver Co.
  • Status: offline
2012/03/08 12:01:42 (permalink)

Shades Beach Harbor to be fixed...

Engineering firms to pay Harborcreek Township $900,000 in Shades Beach settlement

By KEVIN FLOWERS, Erie Times-News
kevin.flowers@timesnews.com



Two engineering firms have agreed to pay Harborcreek Township a collective $900,000 to settle a lawsuit over offshore improvements at Shades Beach that the township said were faulty.


The three-member Harborcreek Township Board of Supervisors unanimously approved the settlement agreement at a meeting Wednesday morning.


According to the agreement, Urban Engineers, of Erie, will pay the township $897,500, and W.F. Baird & Associates, of Fitchburg, Wis., a coastal engineering firm that also worked on the project, will pay $2,500.


The payments are required within 45 days, and neither company admits "liability of any sort," according to the settlement agreement.


"We're very pleased with (the settlement)," Harborcreek Supervisor Timothy May said. "A settlement was the best move for us."


Erie lawyer Paul Susko, who represented Urban Engineers in the case, could not be reached for comment.


The lawsuit was filed by Harborcreek Township in July 2009, two years after construction of Shades Beach Harbor was completed in May 2007. The public park is north of Route 5, along the Lake Erie shoreline.


In the lawsuit, Harborcreek Township said that engineers created "an inadequate, improper and deficient design and specification for Shades Beach Harbor."


As a result of that design, the township said, it was forced to spend more than $75,000 to dredge the basin of Shades Beach Harbor, and could have to spend more than $2 million to replace or repair breakwalls, sidewalks, fishing platforms, ramps and docks.


The suit also claimed that the elevation of the offshore improvements resulted in ramp angles that were out of compliance with engineering standards.


The $900,000 settlement will be used "for the rebuild and repair" of those shoreline features, Harborcreek Supervisor Dean Pepicello said.


Harborcreek Township agreed in April 2004 to pay Urban Engineers $25,500 to design the offshore improvements.
#1

8 Replies Related Threads

    Grendel
    Pro Angler
    • Total Posts : 1675
    • Reward points: 0
    • Joined: 2001/10/30 21:39:21
    • Location: Between Heaven and Hell
    • Status: offline
    RE: Shades Beach Harbor to be fixed... 2012/03/08 12:15:14 (permalink)
    It is too bad that things cannot be done correctly the first time. Then again, there is no money in doing things right the first time. Gotta love capitalism...

    The strength of a person isn't measured by the muscle in their arm or how tall they stand, but rather, by the amount of knowledge and area of versatility they can cover. CM ~ 1987

    Not a fan of Burgh teams. Get over it...
    #2
    smokey4sure
    Avid Angler
    • Total Posts : 106
    • Reward points: 0
    • Joined: 2010/03/14 10:33:52
    • Status: offline
    RE: Shades Beach Harbor to be fixed... 2012/03/08 12:51:24 (permalink)

    It's a nice clean launch, but certainly could use some improvement in regards to water depth. I have a few scars on my little rig to prove it!
    #3
    spoonchucker
    Pro Angler
    • Total Posts : 8561
    • Reward points: 0
    • Status: offline
    RE: Shades Beach Harbor to be fixed... 2012/03/08 14:41:19 (permalink)
    "Then again, there is no money in doing things right the first time. Gotta love capitalism..."

    In this case, because the system worked, there was much more money in "doing things right the first time". As I read it, Urban Engineers is out close to $850,000.

    Though in general your statement could be accurate. In many cases ( particularly defense contractors ), the same company that got paid for doing it wrong ( without penalty ), gets paid again for doing it over. Under the arguement that they are the only ones "capable of doing it right"

    Same occurs to a degree in the private sector as well. A common comment among some of my co-workers at my last place of employment, was. " I get paid the same for doing it wrong, as I do for doing it right, and I get overtime for doing it over"


    Get Informed, Get Involved, And Make A Difference.

    Step Up, or Step Aside


    The next time you say "Somebody should do something", remember that YOU are somebody.

    GL
    #4
    eyesandgillz
    Pro Angler
    • Total Posts : 4026
    • Reward points: 0
    • Joined: 2003/06/18 11:30:03
    • Status: offline
    RE: Shades Beach Harbor to be fixed... 2012/03/08 15:21:19 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: spoonchucker

    "Then again, there is no money in doing things right the first time. Gotta love capitalism..."

    In this case, because the system worked, there was much more money in "doing things right the first time". As I read it, Urban Engineers is out close to $850,000.

    Though in general your statement could be accurate. In many cases ( particularly defense contractors ), the same company that got paid for doing it wrong ( without penalty ), gets paid again for doing it over. Under the arguement that they are the only ones "capable of doing it right"

    Same occurs to a degree in the private sector as well. A common comment among some of my co-workers at my last place of employment, was. " I get paid the same for doing it wrong, as I do for doing it right, and I get overtime for doing it over"




    More like their insurance is out $897,500, just below their $1 million cap for Errors and Omissions.
    #5
    deetz4352
    Pro Angler
    • Total Posts : 3549
    • Reward points: 0
    • Status: offline
    RE: Shades Beach Harbor to be fixed... 2012/03/08 16:35:46 (permalink)
    Sure hope they enlarge the marina and correct the basin problem and dredging problem and the ramp problem and the docks problem and the platform problem.

    Yup I hope the right person redesigns the whole dam thing.

    The Deetz
    Fishermen are born honest,but they get over it
    #6
    Erie Mako
    Expert Angler
    • Total Posts : 446
    • Reward points: 0
    • Joined: 2010/06/25 14:32:48
    • Location: Indiana County, PA
    • Status: offline
    RE: Shades Beach Harbor to be fixed... 2012/03/08 17:39:40 (permalink)
    Wonder if they ever asked the boaters that use it what kind of "improvements" that they would like to see?

    On the internet, EVERYONE is entitled to their opinion!
    #7
    eyedreamn
    Expert Angler
    • Total Posts : 368
    • Reward points: 0
    • Joined: 2010/09/04 19:50:55
    • Location: Pittsburgh
    • Status: offline
    RE: Shades Beach Harbor to be fixed... 2012/03/08 20:42:35 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: deetz4352

    Sure hope they enlarge the marina and correct the basin problem and dredging problem and the ramp problem and the docks problem and the platform problem.

    Yup I hope the right person redesigns the whole dam thing.




    I couldnt of said it any better.
    That thing is my boats worst nightmare.
    From the dock pillings to the shoot!
    #8
    freshwaterdrumR
    Expert Angler
    • Total Posts : 603
    • Reward points: 0
    • Joined: 2005/09/18 11:25:06
    • Location: Pittsburgh
    • Status: offline
    RE: Shades Beach Harbor to be fixed... 2012/03/09 09:13:38 (permalink)
    Ive only seen that launch once....Id hate to try to get my boat back in there on a day that gets nasty...
    #9
    Jump to: