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2012/01/26 17:32:28 (permalink)

musky baits

I caught my first musky the other day right in the middle of one of my best summer flathead spots. For some reason I've never got one on a live gill sucker or chub(which I got said musky on) while bottom fishing for cats. With the new 3 rod rule in effect I could throw out two cat rods and cast a muskie lure. Do they hit well at night? Can anyone recommend a couple musky lures to try out? Im planning on using a 7' m(severely under rated m)ugly stick tiger w a larger spinning reel and 50lb braid. I'm looking more for numbers than a trophy. I'm not looking on dropping like $200 on a whole ton of new lures. If anyone could suggest a few that might produce in the Allegheny I'd appreciate it.
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    anatikus
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    RE: musky baits 2012/01/26 23:23:55 (permalink)
    first off, using braid will eat the lead eyelet right off your uglystick....its why i switched to fusion. as far as lures go, try the perch x-rap or a big husky jerk, it usually works for me.

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    RE: musky baits 2012/01/27 06:22:23 (permalink)
    Thanks, I've been using braid on 5 different ugly sticks for years and never had a cut guide issue, from what I understand, braid is much better than it used to be. So basically bigger bass and walleye cranks are a good bet?
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    RE: musky baits 2012/01/27 12:40:32 (permalink)
    Not once have I ever had Powerpro chew into an uglystick tip

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    RE: musky baits 2012/01/27 15:37:33 (permalink)
    i destroyed 2 regular 7' ugly sticks with braided line....so i switched to the ugly stick pro model and fusion line and havnt had a problem since.

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    RE: musky baits 2012/01/28 19:52:17 (permalink)
    Small and big single and double bladed spinners, bucher topraiders, and soft plastics. Keep the colors bright in the daytime and black for nighttime.

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    RE: musky baits 2012/01/28 20:31:59 (permalink)
    I throw nothing but braid on my ugly sticks, fireline crystal on the ultra lights for trout and panfish and power pro on my walleye medium weights and have been using the same rods now for 12 years with no problems. Even my flipping rods for bass are loaded with power pro braid for the abrasion resistance against the wood and non of my eyes on that are getting chewed up either.

    I have caught a ton of muskies while bass fishing. Spinnerbaits, cranks, soft plastics and swimbaits have all produced at least one musky per year for me. Most of the guys throwing the big baits are targeting trophies rather than numbers, however I have caught some beasts on the smaller baits also. My largest ski (49 1/2") came on a 3" crankbait in crawfish fishing for smallies. I am actually goin to be selling my musky baits cause I just don't use them anymore, I'm getting more into the bass scene and fishing more tournaments this year. I didn't even go out for skis last year.

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    RE: musky baits 2012/01/28 21:22:07 (permalink)
    Once again , ask 10 different peeps and you'll get 10 different answers . Always consider live bait and don't forget , if you do use live bait it
    is legal to use crappies , perch ,trout , walleyes etc as bait as long as they were taken legally and they meet the requirements for the individual species from the specific waterway it was taken in . Don't forget that this might vary from the wateway that you are fishing in . If that 's the case , you have to use the bait with the requirements of the waterway you are fishing in . I realize you are interested in the Allegheny River. I like to float bait under the biggest plastic or cork float you can find . Sometimes this takes some work on your part and mail order might be the easiest way to go . A word of caution though ; large 3-4" cork floats might surprise you as far as price goes [$] , but you also want to consider that they are more efficient to float large baits with in comparison to the same size plastic float . The cork is far superior in that the same size cork will float a larger size bait . As far as lures , consider a Musky sized Jitterbug or Hula Poppers and any size Rapala in their largest size . You might want to consider Raps in their saltwater line as they are larger than their freshwater counterparts . Larger in- line spinners and Creek Chubs . I like the old wood Creek Chubs better than the plastic ones and they are available at a surprisingly reasonable price from places like The American Freshwater Lures Collectors' Club . I believe that is their name , but I could have transposed some of the words .
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    RE: musky baits 2012/01/29 04:59:03 (permalink)
    its sounding like i had 2 lemon ugly sticks.......lol! oh well, ive had crazy good days with the set up i use now...in numbers and monsters, its funny though, my best musky days came while bass fishing or walleye trolling....go figure.

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    RE: musky baits 2012/01/29 06:57:24 (permalink)
    Remember most designed Muskie baits are pretty heavy may want to consider a stout musky rod and casting reel. You might have problems working larger baits with a fiberglass rod and spinning reel.
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    RE: musky baits 2012/01/29 09:17:53 (permalink)
    I picked up a,sz 11 rapala xrw in a creek chubby looking color for $5 at Gander yesterday. I may tie up a couple big spinners w a bunch of flashabou to try as well. Does it require a special clevice for double spinners? Or do you just use 2. Is blade color at night a factor?. Ive been thinkin about trying slip floats while catfishing anyway as well, so I think ill give that a try too. Thanks to everyone for all the help. I really appreciate it.
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    RE: musky baits 2012/01/29 11:06:01 (permalink)
    I believe it does require special clevise, i would just make sure to use a decent steel leader, not a berkley, not built very well and will eventually let you down. The allegheny river isn't really a numbers place for musky, in fact theres maybe only a few places in PA that could be considered #s waters. To me #s waters are places that you can expect action or a couple fish to hit the net daily.
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    RE: musky baits 2012/01/29 13:52:29 (permalink)
    I'm not expecting numbers really, just maybe pick up one or two fish over the course of the summer while catfishing. I was planning on just using 60lb flouro leader I use for catfishing, my dad catches sharks on the stuff, so I think I like my chances. But I do have some wire leader material lying around as well, won't it effect the action of a walk the dog style topwater somewhat?
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    RE: musky baits 2012/01/29 16:13:44 (permalink)
    i only use steel leaders when trolling....for casting i use a 2' leader of heavier braid.

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    RE: musky baits 2012/01/29 20:53:14 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: FishinGuy

    , won't it effect the action of a walk the dog style topwater somewhat?


    Not that much.

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    RE: musky baits 2012/01/30 05:41:59 (permalink)
    FishingGuy, Alot of my side to side glide baits/topwaters work better with a solid steel leader. Make sure the leader is longer than the bait because the fish will have a tendency to hit the bait when its ending its glide and that when the leader is lying along the side of the bait. So by having a leader longer than the bait it reduces the chances your main line will be in the fishs mouth on a strike and should reduce the chance of a bite off.


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    ...for casting i use a 2' leader of heavier braid.



    Be careful with braid as a leader, even the heavy stuff it is not very abrasion resistant. One or two nicks can cause a failure.
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    RE: musky baits 2012/01/30 07:28:40 (permalink)
    That makes a lot of sense, thanks a lot anzomcik. I may use flouro for live bait but ill put a long wire leader on that rapala. +1 braid cuts easily under tension
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    RE: musky baits 2012/01/30 08:38:13 (permalink)
    Use a 100 pound flouro and dont worry about it. I seen 30+ muskies caught on it last yr. With no break offs.

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    RE: musky baits 2012/01/30 12:38:12 (permalink)
    I prefer 100 lb fluro leader, but i have a rod reel combo set up with a solid wire lleader just for side to side glide baits because i get less tanlges of the leader with the hooks with solid wire.
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    RE: musky baits 2012/01/31 17:07:18 (permalink)
    I use 80 lb fluoro. No problems.

    Like Anz said, I wouldnt recommend a "braid" leader.
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    RE: musky baits 2012/01/31 23:50:16 (permalink)
    There is a show at butler high school next weekend I believe. 90% of the vendors will be Muskie guys. Wiley lures, Leo's ect... . If u want lures and info go.
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    RE: musky baits 2012/02/01 10:24:18 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: smallmouth76

    There is a show at butler high school next weekend I believe. 90% of the vendors will be Muskie guys. Wiley lures, Leo's ect... . If u want lures and info go.

     
    Could you please tell us if this show is indeed going on next week?  And if so, what times? 
    There was an earlier post about this show somewhere but I can't find it again and nothing comes up about it when I checked the school's web site. I want to go but I need to be sure of the times since it's over an hour drive for me.
    Thank You in advance.
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    RE: musky baits 2012/02/01 10:28:25 (permalink)
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    RE: musky baits 2012/02/01 10:31:06 (permalink)
    Thank You Chris.  I'll be there.
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    RE: musky baits 2012/02/01 10:39:21 (permalink)
    You're welcome, I've heard its not what it used to be, but what is. I hope to go but the warm weather is lengthening my honey-do list.

    OP: As far as my favorite 4 musky baits are: topraiders, topraiders, topraiders and bulldawgs. May to tough to use BD from shore and both with spinning equipt. One lure I kept hearing over and over last year (as being productive) was the flatfish.

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    RE: musky baits 2012/02/01 13:19:28 (permalink)
    Topraiders huh? Second time that ones been mentioned. May pick up one of those. Btw, I looked at a double cow girl the other day, it just has 2 regular clevices interlocked on the shaft. I have everything to make a slightly smaller version except the gigantic trebbles they use. Thanks again for all the help guys.
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    RE: musky baits 2012/02/02 21:34:39 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: FishinGuy

    Thanks, I've been using braid on 5 different ugly sticks for years and never had a cut guide issue, from what I understand, braid is much better than it used to be. So basically bigger bass and walleye cranks are a good bet?


    Larger bass and walleye plugs are always bulletproof for Musky. Especially ones with rattles if you're fishing in the river. You can catch em pretty big on little lures. I have caught enough that way that I switched to stronger hooks on all of my smaller musky plugs. The biggest Muskys that I've caught have all been on the larger lures though.

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    RE: musky baits 2012/02/16 15:45:57 (permalink)
    The Butler show gets better every year.
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    RE: musky baits 2012/02/17 14:00:35 (permalink)
    If you want to check for nicks, burrs or grooves in your eyelets, pull a piece of nylon stocking thru the eye and it will snag on rough edges.
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