DarDys
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RE: New Antler Restrictions 3 up law
2011/11/16 15:42:39
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ORIGINAL: World Famous
Just a thought about dead deer being found, maybe one finds less of them now because there is not many there to begin with. Could be a reason ....WF
You darn well know that it is the grey wolves cleaning them up before they are found. 
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RE: New Antler Restrictions 3 up law
2011/11/16 15:44:15
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3 up top is just another way to have hunters settle for the first doe to walk by, thus reducing the herd more.
How did the PGC conduct research for determing the 3up rule.
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RE: New Antler Restrictions 3 up law
2011/11/16 15:54:21
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You like when I lay them out for you, don't you DD... ..WF
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RE: New Antler Restrictions 3 up law
2011/11/16 18:04:54
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If I were hunting in Ohio I would go by Ohio laws.
New York .. new york laws, etc
but I hunt Pa so I go by the definitions the PGC enforces as to what are points and what are brow tines... and what is/are required to be a legal harvest...
I could care less about other states, since I have no intentions of ever hunting there... I am and have always been TOTALLY happy hunting deer in the 2F area and see no reason to change...
I only have to worry about providing venison for two people each year... but I can see why others may need more and thus hunt other states too....
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RE: New Antler Restrictions 3 up law
2011/11/16 18:09:01
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as for the 3 up not counting brow tines rules .. here's the problem I see.. remember the hunters in the 4 point areas complained their eye sight was not as good as hunters in the 3 to a side areas.. they had trouble seeing/finding brow tines... so the rule was changed.. I'm just waiting for all the improved eye sight this year and low and behold === all of a sudden 8 inch brow tines appear on those deer and they are easy to see now and are counted as part of the three up ....... and they get shot and end up not being legal.. I can't tell you how many buying licenses in the hardware have said they did NOT know brow tines do not count in the lower half of 2F this year ..... they thought it was three to a side.... 
post edited by Dr. Trout - 2011/11/16 18:12:07
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RE: New Antler Restrictions 3 up law
2011/11/16 18:13:18
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Shouldn't be called 3 up at all. Can hear the WCO already those "DROP" tines don't count it's 3 "UP"... 
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RE: New Antler Restrictions 3 up law
2011/11/16 18:17:39
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I really think it was meant to mean "three up" from the brow tine or where a brow tine should be...
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RE: New Antler Restrictions 3 up law
2011/11/16 19:35:16
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The new antler restrictions are sounding like a poker game. Three up stickers don't count, Wco says the 4 brow tines dont count, but wait I think he is just bluffing. Doc. says he thinks it was meant "three up" from the brow tine or where a brow tine should be. Doc. your budies made up this game. OH Darn! I fold!
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RE: New Antler Restrictions 3 up law
2011/11/16 19:55:16
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ORIGINAL: Dr. Trout
I can't tell you how many buying licenses in the hardware have said they did NOT know brow tines do not count in the lower half of 2F this year ..... they thought it was three to a side....
Yep. I run into folks on a weekly basis that still think it was changed to three to a side. Some are even unaware of any change in AR. This change was a bad idea for many reasons. I opposed it from the beginning, even before it made it onto a agenda as I heard the idea was being kicked around a while ago.
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RE: New Antler Restictions 3 up law
2011/11/16 22:05:46
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Ok Trout how many points does this buck have and does he have browe tines ?
You must of missed this post dr trout. All though it's not a real deer the antlers surely represent the one like found in 2F. Could you be so kind as to answer the question I have asked you.How many points does this deer have and does he have browe tines according to how the PGC counts them ?
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RE: New Antler Restictions 3 up law
2011/11/16 22:30:11
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How many points does this deer have and does he have browe tines according to how the PGC counts them ?
I was not going to reply to such a "simple" arse question, but I remembered it was you asking and you have your own interpretation of everything that the PGC has as a policy or law.. and can't understand the simpliest of sentences ... so here it is.. I would think anyone that is able to read and understand what they read could answer that silly question... from the digest , page 53 == A point is defined as any projection (including the brow tine) at least one inch in length from the base to the tip... so that would make it an 8 pointer The brow tine is the point immediately above the antler burr.. so yes it has brow tines It's an 8 pointer and is legal in all WMUs in Pa.. does that answer your silly question.. I'm sure it doesn't ...
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RE: New Antler Restictions 3 up law
2011/11/16 22:44:16
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RE: New Antler Restictions 3 up law
2011/11/16 23:02:02
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What's a G2 ?? I see 4 points (by PGC definitions) on each antler... If any of the 4 points on that buck were missing on one side (or even both sides) it would still be legal in 2F to shoot it .. In 2F bucks only have to have a total of 3 points on one side.. Didn't you get a copy of the digest with your license.. if not send me your address and I'll mail you one to read ... or even better yet == go to the PGC website and download the free one there
post edited by Dr. Trout - 2011/11/16 23:05:47
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RE: New Antler Restictions 3 up law
2011/11/16 23:22:43
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I see alot of split brow tines where I hunt in 1B. So a legal buck would have to be a 10 point? That's just crazy.
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RE: New Antler Restictions 3 up law
2011/11/16 23:25:00
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RE: New Antler Restictions 3 up law
2011/11/19 18:14:04
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We will see more of the mistake kills laying around this year also. Ya wanna see numerous ones just go out to a couple SGL,s and do some hiking with a compass or GPS they are out there. Just some more stupidity. Thanks Pennsylvania ( AR,s )
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RE: New Antler Restictions 3 up law
2011/11/19 19:59:05
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Have been fortunate enough in life to have taken more than my share of decent Deer.
My favorite is by far NOT the largest but a real nice fork horn. The deer was 2 1/2 to 3 1/2 years old with no base tines and very long wide horns of decent mass- Kinda Mulie looking. He weighed in a bit over 140 dressed.
Love those horns cause they are different from normal size forks- bout 3 or 4 times bigger and perfectly matched.
Unfortuantly this very nice mature fully grown buck woulda got me pinched in PA.
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RE: New Antler Restictions 3 up law
2011/11/21 07:23:39
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ORIGINAL: Dr. Trout
What's a G2 ??
It's the second in the Gatorade drink series. G1 is for pre-activity -- before the game; G2 is for during the physical activity; and G3 is for post game replenishment. You probably sell it in the store.
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RE: New Antler Restictions 3 up law
2011/11/21 17:19:42
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RE: New Antler Restictions 3 up law
2011/11/21 17:47:17
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Ran into another fellow today while talking hunting that didn't know about the new split format in 2A this year. But he did know that they changed the antler restrictions. He said its three on a side this year. 
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RE: New Antler Restictions 3 up law
2011/11/21 18:23:45
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Ran into another fellow today while talking hunting that didn't know about the new split format in 2A this year. But he did know that they changed the antler restrictions. He said its three on a side this year.
It wll probaly change 2 or 3 times again. Make up my mind. Why do they constantly keep changing the regs ? Guys that hunt multible WMU's need to pull out the book before firing now days.
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