fishin for steel vs huntin for doe

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2007/12/02 17:03:51 (permalink)

fishin for steel vs huntin for doe

I was hunting Saturday and saw a very small deer.  It was a yearling and I had full intentions of shooting until something stopped me.  This is the worst year I have ever had as far as seeing deer.  I passed on the little deer although it was the only deer I have seen since opening day.  I kept thinking how much more fun I would have been having if I would have been fishing the Erie tribs knowing full well the trib conditions was perfect.  I made a doe bleet and had the small deer actually change directions and started straight towards my location.  It couldn't have been more than fifteen yards from me until it saw me.  It didn't run away like I expected, it stared for a few minutes then slowly moved away.  It didn't run, just slowly moved into some thicker brush.  It stayed fairly close to me and it didn't move more than 70 yards away from for the next several hours.  Now I'm not sure if I'm even going to hunt the last Saturday if the tribs are producing.  I'm pretty sure I'm gonna NOT SHOOT ANY DOE for the next year or two.  Sure, there are bigger bucks in the woods but at what cost?  I'd rather spend my time fishing for Steelhead. 
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    RE: fishin for steel vs huntin for doe 2007/12/02 17:30:48 (permalink)
    I can get more food out of a deer than a few steelhead, its just what my family depends on for food every year, i know theres less an less deer every year but its my familys prime food source every year.
     
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    RE: fishin for steel vs huntin for doe 2007/12/02 17:36:12 (permalink)
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    RE: fishin for steel vs huntin for doe 2007/12/02 19:43:54 (permalink)
    Two reasons why I would choose hunting over Slime Fishing right now:
     
    1. Deer Season will be over soon.  Slime fishing will be lasting until April, if not beyond.
     
    2. Deer are smarter and a bit tougher to kill than catching Slime - as a good buddy says "You could teach a monkey to catch one of these things."
     
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    RE: fishin for steel vs huntin for doe 2007/12/02 20:27:34 (permalink)
     "You could teach a monkey to catch one of these things."
     
    Doc I thought I saw you catch one       ONE TIME   LOL

     



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    RE: fishin for steel vs huntin for doe 2007/12/02 21:31:38 (permalink)
    deer hunting, or hunting period, has been in my blood before the steel so I almost have to go. I saw my first 2 doe of the season yesterday and almost shot one. That would have been way more excitng than catching 20+ steel. But thats just me. 
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    RE: fishin for steel vs huntin for doe 2007/12/02 23:14:54 (permalink)
    Maybe you should try hunting a different area?  I've been seeing plenty of deer this season ( Seen 10+ doe a day in the four days I've been out). I bagged my buck friday so I'll be pushing for everyone else now.  I'll wack a doe in the late muzzleoader season and that will be enough for me.
     
    Some areas are thin, and some area are polluted with deer.  Don't be stubborn, do your homework and try another area.
     
    As far as hunting vs. steelhead fishing goes...  I've personaly fished almost once a week since labor day, it's time for a break.  As Grendel stated, the steelhead will be around for awhile... hit the woods while you can.  I'll be back on the streams maybe next week.  Once it gets cold they arent as much fun to catch anymore anyways.
     
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    RE: fishin for steel vs huntin for doe 2007/12/02 23:19:15 (permalink)
    Save a doe, shoot a button buck!  
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    RE: fishin for steel vs huntin for doe 2007/12/02 23:35:27 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: Stillhead

    Save a doe, shoot a button buck!  

     
    Are you really that oblivious?
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    RE: fishin for steel vs huntin for doe 2007/12/02 23:54:43 (permalink)
    LOL, that didn't take long.  I love getting you trophy guys all riled up.
    post edited by Stillhead - 2007/12/02 23:58:57
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    RE: fishin for steel vs huntin for doe 2007/12/03 08:54:26 (permalink)
    i dont understand why people want to shoot the only deer they see on the property.
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    RE: fishin for steel vs huntin for doe 2007/12/03 12:25:04 (permalink)
    Yeah, those guys should find a better place to hunt that has more deer.
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    RE: fishing for steel vs hunting for doe 2007/12/03 12:25:16 (permalink)
    And people wonder why there are no bucks. Wanting to shoot all the button bucks. Must be the game commission.
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    RE: fishin for steel vs huntin for doe 2007/12/06 15:51:31 (permalink)
    See you on the water Saturday ! Wouldn't miss the rising water for anything. FISH ON - goT tHe ShakeS ALreAdy
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    RE: fishin for steel vs huntin for doe 2007/12/11 14:26:19 (permalink)
    If you are on stand and thinking about how much fun it would be to be steelhead fishing...you hunt for the wrong reasons...period.
    If you are standing in the stream thinking you'd be having a better time sitting on stand...you fish for the wrong reasons.
     
    Seems to be a common pattern.
     
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    RE: fishin for steel vs huntin for doe 2007/12/11 17:33:04 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: Ironhed

    If you are on stand and thinking about how much fun it would be to be steelhead fishing...you hunt for the wrong reasons...period.
    If you are standing in the stream thinking you'd be having a better time sitting on stand...you fish for the wrong reasons.



     
    Or you just might have A.D.D. really bad
     
    Seriously not trying to be a prick or bashing you, but I wonder if you could explain that a little more.  What are the right reasons, in your opinion, to hunt or fish?  What are the wrong reasons to hunt or fish?
     
    To answer that myself, gotta admit I hunt and fish mostly for the thrill of the chase.  Probably second is for relaxation, third for the meat (though 99.9% of fish I catch go back in the water, unless they're flounder or speckled trout from the Gulf) and fourth for the fellowship with friends and family.  I'm sure most guys would give similar answers, though maybe not in that order.
     
    I mean, my mind wanders to all kinds of things when I'm hunting, especially putting in a few hours on a stand for deer.  I'm not the most patient guy in the world, and definitely not always the most focused - no matter what I'm doing.  I enjoy hunting for deer, but I've been pretty casual about it the past few years since I don't bow hunt anymore and have picked up a few new hobbies and interests.  Deer hunting doesn't get my blood boiling the way that it used to, even 3 or 4 years ago.  Maybe it's time to quit hunting deer till my kids get older and want to do it?
     
    In all seriousness, I gotta say that more than a few times this deer season, I thought "Hmmm, wonder how the steelhead fishing would be today?  I'd probably be enjoying it more than this."  Of course, where I hunt is about 6 miles from home.  Most of the tribs are around 120, so that was definitely a limiting factor in why I was hunting instead of steelhead fishing.  If it was the other way around, I might not deer hunt anymore.
     
    Now, on the other hand, I think I can honestly say that while I've been steelhead fishing I've never once wished that I was doing something else.  This is my 5th season fishing the tribs, and I average about 5 or 6 trips a year.  Maybe it's because I rarely get to do it. 
     
     
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    RE: fishin for steel vs huntin for doe 2007/12/12 15:54:07 (permalink)
    "What are the wrong reasons to hunt or fish?"

    Since we are on a hunting board I'll keep my comments geared towards hunting.

    If we bundle up, throw on our orange and sling a gun/bow over our back, I'd say the reason we are going hunting is to harvest an animal.  If not, we would not have a firearm/bow.

    Let's say we are going hunting to "get away" or "spend time with friends" or even "enjoy the commradiere(sp) of friends" and a 140" whitetail steps out and presents a shot.  Are you going to let that deer walk?  More than likely not. 
    Bottom line, we are in the woods during hunting season with a firearm/bow in hopes of harvesting an animal.

    I may only have a few hours to hunt in a single day. I may not be able to go steelhead fishing because it's far from home and my time is limited. "Covenience" should not be a reason we hunt or fish and therefore, imo, makes it wrong.
    Once again, we are out there to harvest or catch.  It don't always go as planned but somewhere, in the backs of our heads, that's the reason we are there. No sugar coating here.

    Sure, our minds wander during slow times while in the woods but if all I can think about is how much I'd rather be steelhead fishing, well, I shouldn't be hunting, I should be steelhead fishing.
    I think it's pretty simple.

    I haven't been diagnosed with A.D.D....yet.

    Ironhed

    p.s. Good luck to everyone this flintlock season.
    post edited by Ironhed - 2007/12/12 15:55:34
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    RE: fishin for steel vs huntin for doe 2007/12/12 16:08:31 (permalink)
    Actually I think you just proved your own theory wrong. If I hunt to harvest game and fish to catch fish (and I do) then if I am having a slow day my mind cannot help but think maybe I would be doing better had I decided to pursue the other species. As for conveience, Since I enjoy both activities and I can be hunting in five minutes or steelheading in 70 minutes, if time is short, hunting is the logical pursuit, except if I am not seeing any game then damm-- I should have found more time and gone fishing. Oh the agony of it all--- Maybe I should just go back to work-----NOT
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    RE: fishin for steel vs huntin for doe 2007/12/12 16:15:08 (permalink)
    Let me try and nail Jello to the wall one more time...
     
    Regardless of past success, convenience, etc., we are there to catch/harvest.
     
    Disect it as much as you want.
     
    Ironhed
    post edited by Ironhed - 2007/12/12 16:19:19
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    RE: fishin for steel vs huntin for doe 2007/12/12 17:11:03 (permalink)
    Thanks for a well-thought out response, hed.  I think I agree with most of what you way.  When I said I primarily hunt & fish for the thrill of the chase, for me that implies that I hunt for the ultimate goal of a kill.  I usually still enjoy the day, even without a kill or catching a fish, but I would definitely agree that I hunt with the expectation - or hope - of harvesting an animal and there's always some disappointment when that doesn't happen. 

    I guess where we disagree is on the matter of "convenience."  And it's just a disagreement - not saying one of us is right or wrong.  I'm sure you work long hours like most guys on this board.  Don't know if you're married & have kids or not, but that's a huge factor for me in how I spend what little free time I might get.  Usually, my opportunities to hunt & fish & play are 1 or 2 hour windows, the main reason I gave up bow hunting (didn't have the time to put in shooting every day and scouting as much as I needed to).  So, when I get one or two hours, even though I might rather be steelhead fishing, I'll take deer hunting even though I might like it less.  There were a couple times this year, where I got into the woods before dawn and was heading back to the truck at 7:30 because my wife was on her way to work and I had to get my daughter off to school and my son to grandma's and me to work.  I guess to sum it all up, I'll take what I can get, even if it's not what I'd love to be doing the most. 
     
    And for the record, my wife is the only one who has diagnosed me with A.D.D.


    post edited by rsquared - 2007/12/12 17:12:29
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    RE: fishin for steel vs huntin for doe 2007/12/12 20:07:20 (permalink)
    HAVE ANY OF YOU EVER SAID
     
    "I didn't catch anything, but the fishing was good"
     
                                 OR
     
    "I didn't see anything, but the hunting was good"
     
    If you have, then your hunting for the same reasons I do. If that is the right reason, so be it.  Others hunt/fish strictly to fill the freezer, to spend time with their sons, fathers, or friends.  No matter why, your out there.  Hell sometimes I think about the grass I have at home to mow while im hunting or fishing. But I find a way to work through it and enjoy my day.

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    RE: fishin for steel vs huntin for doe 2007/12/12 20:37:22 (permalink)
    I hunt and fish to be out in the outdoors.  When I am hunting though, seeing game is kind of important.  I don't shoot at everything I see just like I don't rope every fish I catch.  This wholesale slaughter of Does has really hurt the deer population.  If anyone tells me that there is just as many deer in the woods as there was back when buck season and doe season was seperate, I'd call you a liar.  I learned long ago that you need to fish where the fish are at and hunt deer where the deer are at.  I guess there aren't many deer left where I used to hunt, must be time to move on to new territory.
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    RE: fishin for steel vs huntin for doe 2007/12/14 13:55:20 (permalink)
    The first week of rifle, I hunted the first three days, then went and fished the tribs on thursday.  In general, I prefer hunting to fishing, but Erie is a special case.  I only have so much time during the prime steelhead season, so I sacrificed some deer hunting time to fish.
     
    Typically, when hunting or fishing, I expect to harvest something, but it certainly doesn't always happen.  I've enjoyed many fishless days, and even more deerless ones.  Usually, if I'm not seeing game or catching fish I ask myself, "would you rather be at work?"  That puts it in perspective for me.
     
    The only time I'm disappointed is if I'm fishing a stretch and getting nothing while everyone around me is catching.  Or, if I spend all week in the woods and then I find out a coworker (usually a guy who hunts two or three times a year), went out and got one in twenty minutes.  Usually, with fishing, I can figure out what I'm doing wrong and make an adjustment and begin catching fish.  But with deer hunting during rifle season, it seems like it's about 90% dumb luck.
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    RE: fishin for steel vs huntin for doe 2007/12/14 15:12:59 (permalink)
    It all comes down to personal prefrence.
    Mine is fishing.
    I go every season 10-15 times. And NEVER not once have I ever though about anything else.
    Hunting I'm either sleeping, or thinking about Steel or girls, or beer.

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