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2011/10/16 20:07:15 (permalink)

USGS data

Okay so looking at the flow charts i can see what blown out is now but what do you guys consider good fishing conditions. that way i dont have to ask how the water looks everytime i want to drive up and get a bunch of smart answers like it looks wet or cold
thanks for your help

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    RE: USGS data 2011/10/16 20:51:29 (permalink)
    Well, brandy run chart for elk is fishable at bout 1.8 real low is bout 1.6. Today I fished bot 1.85 little high for most people. But you also have to take into account visability. 1.8 on the upward trend or slightly dropping likely won't be fishable because of the color.
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    RE: USGS data 2011/10/16 22:24:17 (permalink)

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    Okay so looking at the flow charts i can see what blown out is now but what do you guys consider good fishing conditions. that way i dont have to ask how the water looks everytime i want to drive up and get a bunch of smart answers like it looks wet or cold
    thanks for your help


    what crik

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    RE: USGS data 2011/10/16 22:47:01 (permalink)

    I think the Walnut flow cfs gauge is better for Elk than brandy run.   Elk and Walnuts watersheds are only a couple miles apart.  Good fishing conditions are just a matter of taste, no one can tell you what your perfect conditions are.

    I can tell you that 200+ cfs is to high for most, and less than 30 is really low.  Now check it out every time before you go up, or call a buddy while your up there standing in the water.  Have him tell you exactly where the gauge is at.  You'll figure out what your ideal flow is in no time.
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    RE: USGS data 2011/10/16 23:20:40 (permalink)
    If your looking for a straight forward answer, 150CFS and dropping on Walnut gauge early in the morning (5am) will produce ideal conditions for that day barring anymore rain. Elk will take slightly longer to clear, and you will find ideal conditions closer to mid-day. Anything lower than around 65-50CFS water is low and clear with fish easily spotted in most holes (Walnut). Elk usually has a nice color and flow at around 75CFS on Walnut gauge. anything lower than 40CFS produces a weak flow with gin clear water clarity. If the Gauge is at 100CFS or better, and a steady rain is falling creeks will usually be blown out by noon.
    post edited by egg_drifter - 2011/10/16 23:25:01
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    RE: USGS data 2011/10/17 00:06:52 (permalink)
    Both Walnut's and Brandy's guage is misleading at times trying to figure Elk's conditions.

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    RE: USGS data 2011/10/17 08:37:05 (permalink)
    For me I think around 150 is perfect at the nut while 40 starts to get to low. I think the brownish clay colored water is pefect. It's a thin line.
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    RE: USGS data 2011/10/17 08:42:29 (permalink)

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    RE: USGS data 2011/10/17 09:20:03 (permalink)
    If your looking for a straight forward answer, 150CFS and dropping on Walnut gauge early in the morning (5am) will produce ideal conditions for that day barring anymore rain


    Like I said, everyone has their ideal conditions.  150CFS @5am is a little to high for my taste.  At that number it might be getting good right before dark.  100CFS and dropping on the walnut gauage early in the morning will produce ideal conditions for myself.  Not sure how more straight forward I could have been with my initial response.
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    RE: USGS data 2011/10/17 09:28:00 (permalink)
    Also, a single number on the Walnut CFS gauge doesn't always mean Elk is going to be exactly the same at that number every time.   Depending on how much water is in the ground and if there is or isn't snow melt off that day, 100 CFS could mean two different things on two different days. 

    If the Walnut gauage is at 150CFS and dropping @ 5am, but there is alot of snow on the ground and warm temps predicted that day,  then I think the water would start rising as soon as it warms up and potentially get very high.
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    RE: USGS data 2011/10/17 10:07:40 (permalink)
    i was talking about walnut thanks for all the input. i looked at what it was when i was up this weekend so i know what not to drive up for lol.

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    RE: USGS data 2011/10/17 10:15:42 (permalink)
    i was talking about walnut


    In my opinion there is no ideal gauge height or flow for fishing lower walnut. 
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    RE: USGS data 2011/10/17 14:06:42 (permalink)

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    Thats fishable I fished water that looked like that this weekend just need a lot of shot and a 4 foot leader and its fish on every drift.

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    RE: USGS data 2011/10/17 14:56:24 (permalink)

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    Thats fishable I fished water that looked like that this weekend just need a lot of shot and a 4 foot leader and its fish on every drift.




    Probably used your switch rod

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    RE: USGS data 2011/10/17 15:50:53 (permalink)
    Nope I was going to but decided the 10 color leadcore was a better choice that way I didn't need all the shot
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    RE: USGS data 2011/10/17 18:45:19 (permalink)
    That's good water for drennans.

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    RE: USGS data 2011/10/17 21:56:27 (permalink)
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    Okay so looking at the flow charts i can see what blown out is now but what do you guys consider good fishing conditions. that way i dont have to ask how the water looks everytime i want to drive up and get a bunch of smart answers like it looks wet or cold
    thanks for your help


    I posted this last year, it gives a visual idea of what the numbers mean.  There is no magic number, but at some point there is way too much water or not enough.

    http://forums.fishusa.com/m_343754/mpage_1/key_cfs/tm.htm#343798
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    RE: USGS data 2011/10/18 20:06:40 (permalink)
    thanks for the link

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