fish hard 79
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Cold
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RE: Conemaugh pollution.
2011/03/23 10:53:24
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The court said the discharges have violated the Clean Water Act on 8,684 days since 2005. That's **** impressive, considering there have only been less than 2,500 days since 2005 for the rest of us. If they're still in energy, they're in the wrong business. "GenOn's long history of failure to comply with its pollution limits suggests that the quality of Pennsylvania's rivers is worth less to the company than the profits it can take back to Houston," Could say the same thing, but substitute in any of the fracking companies and their home states, and it'd be equally viable. The environmental groups filed the lawsuit because the state Department of Environmental Protection had agreed in a 2004 "side deal" to delay for seven years the enforcement of discharge limits it set in 2001, said Josh Kratka, an attorney with the Boston-based nonprofit national Environmental Law Center, which represented the groups. The DEP has since extended the agreement to 2012. How does that even happen?! Maybe next time I get pulled over, I'll ask the trooper to 'delay the enforcement of speed limits'.
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ddubs3
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RE: Conemaugh pollution.
2011/03/23 11:00:13
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eyesandgillz
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RE: Conemaugh pollution.
2011/03/23 11:01:48
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ORIGINAL: Cold
The court said the discharges have violated the Clean Water Act on 8,684 days since 2005.[/quote]
That's **** impressive, considering there have only been less than 2,500 days since 2005 for the rest of us. If they're still in energy, they're in the wrong business.
Multiple discharge sites, maybe? Each one would be its own violation for each day in violation. Only way I can see how the math works out.
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D-nymph
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RE: Conemaugh pollution.
2011/03/23 11:01:57
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ORIGINAL: Cold
The environmental groups filed the lawsuit because the state Department of Environmental Protection had agreed in a 2004 "side deal" to delay for seven years the enforcement of discharge limits it set in 2001, said Josh Kratka, an attorney with the Boston-based nonprofit national Environmental Law Center, which represented the groups. The DEP has since extended the agreement to 2012.
How does that even happen?! Maybe next time I get pulled over, I'll ask the trooper to 'delay the enforcement of speed limits'.
It's common practice for companies and municipalities to negotiate their fines down to a fraction of what it should have been. Standard PADEP operating procedure. These guys will pay a couple hundred thousand, and that'll be it for 10 years.
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Mags00
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RE: Conemaugh pollution.
2011/03/23 21:08:08
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This makes me so sick to my stomach... I love fishing near the dam, at tunnelton and the new bridge area, i've caught some of the nicest smallmouth in that section of the conemaugh river and lost 2 very nice pike in the same area as well as hooked into a giant a few years back that bent the shank on a #4 mepps spinner and I saw probably 15-20" of the back end of the thing... I really wish they would make them pay huge fines and even aid in reviving and fixing what they have broken, but that's a huge dream cause it never happens that way.
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hiclassHilbilly
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RE: Conemaugh pollution.
2011/03/27 22:33:36
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I live on this river, downstream of the powerplant. I moved here in 2005 and started fishing it in 2006. I had two great years of fishing, but the fishing has gone downhill a lot the last few years. I used to go out at night and catch 10-15 bullhead catfish per hour and now I average 2-3 per 3 hours. The numbers of smallies seems to be down too. I was not sure what to blame it on, poor spawning due to heat, water levels, I suddenly stink at fishing ....etc
I can personally verify that the fishing on the river is not what it was 3 years ago and it is an absolute trajedy. Fine these people to the maximum amount possible, PLEASE. That river was just recovering from nearly a century of being sterile and now it is taking a step backward again.
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Invicta
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RE: Conemaugh pollution.
2011/03/29 19:26:13
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it's a shame that a river as beautiful as the conemaugh is being polluted each and every day. slapping that powerplant with fines will never accomplish anything. the government should just shut that plant down, but that will never happen.
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psu_fish
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RE: Conemaugh pollution.
2011/03/29 19:33:20
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ORIGINAL: Invicta
the government should just shut that plant down, but that will never happen.
then you will bawl about the lack of electric to power your computer 
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Invicta
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RE: Conemaugh pollution.
2011/03/29 19:47:09
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fish hard 79
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RE: Conemaugh pollution.
2011/03/29 20:21:58
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HillBilly, I have also seen the fishing go downhill over the last few years. I thought possibly overfishing since the word really got out about the quality of fishing. However, maybe it is all the pollution. I just got a boat and my days on the conemaugh shoreline are pretty much done especially since the fishing isn't what it was. 2000-2003 were good years for me. The last 3 have been poor.
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spoonchucker
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RE: Conemaugh pollution.
2011/03/29 22:45:26
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"then you will bawl about the lack of electric to power your computer" So what's YOUR solution? A nominal fine, a fraction of what they save by being in violation? Yup, that'll put a stop to it  . Or do you just accept the loss of water quality on yet another river? I'd rather fish for real on clean waters, than on my computer. How about this? We let them keep operating, but jail the CEO, and a few other execs until the violations stop, and the damages remediated? Bet it gets staightened out REAL quick.
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