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Dogs on deer
Was sitting at the comp this morning and here what appears to be a pack of dogs running something.
I look out the window and see 3 Huskies have a deer pinned in the creek in my back yard.
I ran out and chased them off with a big stick.
She was bleeding from one ear that was tore up and her rear leg was broken and bleeding.
I sttod watch over her for a few minutes as she just stood in the creek and shivered, she let me get to 10 yards from her.
Should have grabbed the 223 and knocked the snot out of those dam dogs.
Sure is a sad sight to see the way those dogs were trying to kill her...
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RE: Dogs on deer
2011/02/20 10:04:46
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Yea the family dog that looks friendly can become a killer when they pack up.I've seen the local dogs run deer and their owner swear they don't.I think you could have killed the dogs within the law. To bad you didn't whack em. I hope see makes it but kind think thell'y be back or a cote will find her first.
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RE: Dogs on deer
2011/02/20 10:09:35
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Called the local Deputy WCO and he came right out. Kudos to him for getting here so quickly on a Sunday morning.
We found the dogs had the deer cornered in the creek again.
He took a shot at them but down through the brush it was a miss and the dogs ran off.
He decided not to put the deer down as her injuries were not life threatening.
Told him I would jump on the atv later on today and check on her and make sure the dogs left.
I was completely within the law to put those 3 dogs down.
But it just didn't feel right to me to start shooting the dogs.
Hope the dogs go home and the deer heals up.
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RE: Dogs on deer
2011/02/20 11:17:20
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SSS. That is how to handle the situation. Really is a shame that folks let their dogs run loose.
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RE: Dogs on deer
2011/02/20 12:04:41
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SSS Yep.
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RE: Dogs on deer
2011/02/20 12:59:49
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Some folks claim ya oughta shoot those nice little doggies ASAP and NEVER say a word about it to anyone- sometimes less is better- no lawsuits, complaints or neighbor nasties. If asked blame those darn nasty Yotes. Imagin how many fawns and Turkey poults they will take in a few weeks. Them 3 could take more game than a pickup full of guys could get in a good season or two. If that Doe lived bet she already aborted, thats if the stress didnt kill her and all the others this winter that those 3 went after. Any house cat in the woods is just as bad on bunnies and such. Those Yotes just love house kitties.
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RE: Dogs on deer
2011/02/20 14:41:14
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It was a judgement call fellas.
I would have had to shoot 3 dogs, which they all deserved.
I just hated to shoot a dog.
When I got to them on the deer, one dog had it by the ear and another had it by the leg.
If I would have been armed when I went out and seen that then it may have turned out different.
Not sure where a pack of husky mixes here could come from, DWCO said they are the same breed as some dogs raised in the area by the amish next road over.
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RE: Dogs on deer
2011/02/20 15:44:36
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Deer Dogs- one of those breeds of Husky has no bark- just the thing to run a deer - no one knows whats up.
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RE: Dogs on deer
2011/02/20 16:13:13
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Not really the dogs fault. Seems to me that the WCO should make a visit to the next road over. Question is will he ???? ORIGINAL: bingsbaits
It was a judgement call fellas.
I would have had to shoot 3 dogs, which they all deserved.
I just hated to shoot a dog.
When I got to them on the deer, one dog had it by the ear and another had it by the leg.
If I would have been armed when I went out and seen that then it may have turned out different.
Not sure where a pack of husky mixes here could come from, DWCO said they are the same breed as some dogs raised in the area by the amish next road over.
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RE: Dogs on deer
2011/02/20 16:23:58
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What feral amish dogs all I see is a bunch of bloody chucks...just sayin'  
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RE: Dogs on deer
2011/02/20 17:45:33
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Not really the dogs fault. Seems to me that the WCO should make a visit to the next road over. Question is will he ????
ORIGINAL: bingsbaits
It was a judgement call fellas.
I would have had to shoot 3 dogs, which they all deserved.
I just hated to shoot a dog.
When I got to them on the deer, one dog had it by the ear and another had it by the leg.
If I would have been armed when I went out and seen that then it may have turned out different.
Not sure where a pack of husky mixes here could come from, DWCO said they are the same breed as some dogs raised in the area by the amish next road over.
I'm sure he will he is a good man and a very good DWCO.
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RE: Dogs on deer
2011/02/20 17:52:06
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It wasnt Son Of Sams fault either- must be the parents fault---or Society- or those darn Commies- NOOOO his goldfish didnt like him . the problem exists - gotta deal with it not look all over for somebody to blame besides those nice doggies this is startin to be fun BTW- Hey Mountain- nice deer gun
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RE: Dogs on deer
2011/03/03 07:49:22
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ORIGINAL: bingsbaits
It was a judgement call fellas.
I would have had to shoot 3 dogs, which they all deserved.
I just hated to shoot a dog.
When I got to them on the deer, one dog had it by the ear and another had it by the leg.
If I would have been armed when I went out and seen that then it may have turned out different.
Not sure where a pack of husky mixes here could come from, DWCO said they are the same breed as some dogs raised in the area by the amish next road over.
good restraint...but i do agree that any dog hunting deer out of season without a license very well could face the consequences of the landowner...it would just suck to shoot someones pet
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RE: Dogs on deer
2011/03/03 07:54:46
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Sad part is they were spotted 2 days later when they ran a deer through the Sawmill yard a mile away.
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RE: Dogs on deer
2011/03/03 08:01:49
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This can be an emotional topic for some. I'm a dog lover too, but as far as I'm concerned these dogs are no different than coyotes.
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RE: Dogs on deer
2011/03/13 08:38:12
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When those dogs go wild, they are no longer considered a pet. And it's time to treat them like we do coyotes.
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RE: Dogs on deer
2011/03/13 13:59:56
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I think the problem is that everyone wants to own a dog but don't want to take the time to train them. When my dog was young he would try to run deer, and after being hit with the shock collar a couple of times he stopped. Now when he sees a deer he will sit and watch them but doesn't even think about chasing them. I have not even used the shock collar in three years and he is a great dog. I live on 14 1/2 acres and can assure you if three dogs had a deer on this property, they ain't gonna make it off this property. In my opinion that the owner did not do his job and the deer can't protect itself. Would I feel guilty-probably-would I get over it - definitely - would those dogs ever get another deer - not a chance.
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RE: Dogs on deer
2011/03/13 14:43:22
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Its no different than rolling a dog that didnt work out- ya get over it in about a minute
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RE: Dogs on deer
2011/03/13 16:49:19
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It's a domestic dog and the dogs owner should be held liable regardless.If the dog or dogs disappear don't put yourself in a position that you don't want to be in. Shooting someones dog with out significant proof that it endangered wildlife is unlawful.
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RE: Dogs on deer
2011/03/13 17:36:39
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Absolutley 100% correct. Would never shoot a dog just cause its in the woods,. A cat welll yea- but not somebodys dog. Remember though if a situation comes up where ya gotta do what a guy gotta do- keep quiet - blame the yotes- people already dislike yotes anyway.
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RE: Dogs on deer
2011/03/23 21:19:58
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It's a domestic dog and the dogs owner should be held liable regardless.If the dog or dogs disappear don't put yourself in a position that you don't want to be in. Shooting someones dog with out significant proof that it endangered wildlife is unlawful.
Not in the state of Texas. If They're on yer land you can preety much do what you want. Not 100% sure on this, but heard of some proposed legislation that would empower Pennsylvanians the same rights at the Texans, when it comes to protecting your land.
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RE: Dogs on deer
2011/03/23 21:57:48
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Pursuant to Texas Penal COde 42.09 (cruelty to domesticated animals -- dogs, cats and the like), First and Second Offenses of Animal Cruelty in Texas are categorized as Class A misdmeanors -- punishable by up to a $4,000 fine and/or up to a year in jail. Third Offense Animal Cruelty is a felony punishable by up to a $10,000 fine and/or up to 2 years in jail. Pursuant to Texas Penal Code 42.09(A)(5) a person is guilty of animal cruelty if he intentionally, knowingly or recklessly kills, seriously injures, or administers poison to an animal, other than cattle, horses, sheep, swine, or goats, belonging to another without legal authority or the owner's effective consent. So, shooting a dog, unless you can prove it was a "wild" dog is a criminal offense in Texas as classified above.
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RE: Dogs on deer
2011/03/23 22:49:29
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Whos shooting a deer chasing deer mauling dog- It wasnt shot unless somebody sees you or more likely if ya cant keep yer trap shut. Yotes I tell ya- yotes. Just like those nice cats that went missing
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RE: Dogs on deer
2011/03/24 21:18:36
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Forgot to mention that the owner of the land had cats and the neighbors dogs got after them. Needless to say the dogs went home in a body bag and NO fines and NO jail.
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RE: Dogs on deer
2011/03/24 23:26:32
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Was the cat's owner OJ Simpson ? ORIGINAL: BloodyHand
Forgot to mention that the owner of the land had cats and the neighbors dogs got after them. Needless to say the dogs went home in a body bag and NO fines and NO jail.
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