private or public ? ranges

Funny.. you threathened to sue me for posting your bull articles on message board but have no problem posting an article of Bob's .... interesting... ????

Last time I was there an attendent was there seems to me you had to sign in too and to my undrestanding there was to be no automatic weapons allowed? it was starting to be over ran with gang members

I have never threaten to sue anyone. LMAO, KEEP FISHING !!!!

+1 ^

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Not a bad idea. but if the hunter has to shell out $30 bucks he may as well join a private club which has much more to offer and you won't be hassled by the PGC.

 
I beleive it read buy a hunting license OR buy a $30 permit -- not both.

Oa... sorry.. I thought you were Jim Slimesky, outdoor writer ... since you never did tell us who you really are..


are you even a outdoor writer or just pretending to be one...

I see now my error, you did not respond to my posts about links to articles you wrote..

I guess you are not that angry american ... just posted a link to his "bull"


SORRY for the mix up ...!!!!

I'll just ignore you and your posts from now on like a few others here ...... I am learning how to cope on this site..

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What will be next? A $30 permitt to enter the Game Lands ? $$$$$$$$$$

 
Not if you have purchase a hunting license.  But I see nothing wrong with those that do not purchase a hunting license having to pay a $30 permit fee to use the game lands that were purchased through the money from hunting licesnes.
 
Again, its a smal word -- OR

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Can I also use the $40,000 + vehicles the PGC bought with my licence money ?

Dude, come off the vehicle thing. What do you want WCO's to drive? Some used POS?

No, I know what they drive. Basic pickups are not suited to LE work. You need more space for gear, and someone to secure suspects. 4wd+gear storage+room for driver and suspects= SUV. jeep Grand Cherokees will work, but a new Grand cherokee with all the same LE upgrades won't be much cheaper.

jeep cherokees used to be the norm...but they dont sleep 6. those crew cab municipal trucks would be perfect. the motor runs all day(the air is cold and the heaters hot) and the seats were worn but they have low miles. just sayin'

I understandwhat you are saying. Looks like they locked the achery thread "equipment test tonight". Was it something I did ?

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Doc wrote= Oa... sorry.. I thought you were Jim Slimesky, outdoor writer ... since you never did tell us who you really are..


are you even a outdoor writer or just pretending to be one...

I see now my error, you did not respond to my posts about links to articles you wrote..

I guess you are not that angry american ... just posted a link to his "bull"


SORRY for the mix up ...!!!!

Don't feel too bad OA, Doc is famous for accusing anyone who dares to come out against PGC policies of being members of that dreaded USP organization. He can't come to grips with the fact that a very large number of Pennsylvanias citizens don't like many of the things the PGC has done lately. He and the PGC think we should keep quiet and swallow whatever they feed us. They are a lot like Obama and the liberals and will probably suffer the same fate if they continue. Between your site and this one how many of us have you accused Doc, 8-10 or have I missed a few?

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What gear? Is the PGC equipped with SWAT gear they need to take. Explain gear. As far as price who are you trying to convince? Yourself?

 
It is actually pretty obvious that you don’t have any idea what you are talking about.
 
In my expedition there is a tranquilizer rifle because I frequently need it for immobilizing anything from bears to elk to deer. Along with that there is a large tackle box that contains the darts, various ear tags, crimping pliers, etc. There is large action packer that contains jumper cables, tire chains and a tow chain because those things are also needed on various occasion. There is another action packer that contains a chain saw, an axe and a bow saw because I frequently need to get into the back woods roads where trees have fallen since anyone was there last. Then there is a first aid kit, a fire extinguisher, a box of flares and an emergency blanket because we often find our selves first on the scene at traffic or hunting accidents or any number of other such scenes. There is a long jab stick used for tranquilizing bears in culvert traps and a long snare pole used for controlling various wildlife we have to handle in everything from foothold traps to those inside houses or other building when they shouldn’t be. There is a metal detector, an evidence tackle box and a backpack with an evidence kit in it, for when I need to collect evidence back in the woods away from my vehicle. During the winter there might be a set of snowshoes if the snow is deep enough to need them.
 
Then when I go to do a hunter/trapper education class I have to take most of that stuff out so I have room for two LARGE six foot long trunks loaded with hunter education guns and other training equipment. Besides that equipment there are several large boxes of manuals, digests, tests and other handouts. There are projectors, a computer and a screen that is close to seven foot long. All of that just for hunter education and there have been times when I had to make two trips to get it all there because even my Ford Expedition was too small to haul it all in one trip.
 
I also have to move bear traps around all the time and some of them have large bears in them. I have to pull a trailer with dead elk on it that often weigh close to half a ton or even more if I have more than one elk on the trailer. Sometimes I have to pull a display trailer to thing like a fair or other exhibit event that is almost too heavy to pull even with an Expedition.
 
Then there is the fact that sometimes I have another Officer in my vehicle and we have to take a person or two into custody and transport them to a police barracks, a Judge or to jail. The passenger compartment of my vehicle contains a law book, two flashlights, a police style shotgun and a radio console with a panel for the lights and siren. There is a container that holds a selection of metal holders used for writing field information reports, citations, warnings, etc. There are two brief cares that hold various types of paper work used from law enforcement to collecting biological data used while processing dead bears, elk, bobcat and a host of other frequently used forms. There is a portable file folder that holds maps, a phone book, citations needing filed, active investigation folders, handout for the public, etc. There are also coats, jackets, rain gear, orange vests, hats and a law enforcement Stetson and its protective case behind the driver’s seat.
 
In fact even with a Ford Expedition the garage that does my maintenance tells me that I am putting to much weight in the back of my vehicle and that it isn’t made to handle that much weight. I have has smaller vehicles in the past and believe me that didn’t save anyone any money because they were just too lightweight to handle the type of materials we needed to haul. When I needed to pull a trailer I had to go to the game lands building and try to get a Food and Cover truck, provided they weren’t using it at the time. I had to have a trailer and tarp to haul the hunter ed materials and even that didn’t work very well if it was raining because the water still somehow got into the equipment.
 
I have also had a coupe pick up trucks and that worked but everything you put in the back was a mess from all the dust that leaked into the back since a very high percentage of our travel is over dusty or muddy back roads.
 
I agree that in some of the metropolitan districts lighter weight vehicles might work but in these mountainous districts where we spend more time on dirt roads then we do on pavement a lower quality vehicle is going to cost a lot more money in maintenance and ultimately in replacement costs. That has already been proven in the past when we were running lower priced and lower quality vehicles and was in fact the very reason they went back to larger vehicles.
 
R.S. Bodenhorn