watch your butts!

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2010/09/18 11:02:11 (permalink)

watch your butts!

I have seen this before and I wish they would start doing it more, but its illegal to throw your nasty ciggerette butt in the river and I do believe the fine is 250$ at 10$ a pack I would think you smokers would eat them things just to get your moneys worth!
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    pafisher
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    RE: watch your butts! 2010/09/18 19:53:04 (permalink)
    plus one on that!
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    RE: watch your butts! 2010/09/19 11:42:51 (permalink)
    FWIW
     
    Not in PA........one time, while performing undercover duties in SE PA.......I observed individuals dumping butt after butt into the creek ( actually had two cases )........I picked up several of the disgusting little gems........stopped the guys as they were leaving.....wrote citations for littering...........I WAS TOLD TO WITHDRAW the CITATIONS........that we (PFBC) do not issue citations pertaining to littering cases for cig butts........I bit my tongue and did as I was told..........that was within' the first year I was on the payroll......the one of the two I cited for littering had already paid their ticket.........hope he got a refund !!!!
     
     
     
     
    every region is different.........but in mine.......I guess you can throw butts as much as you want.........

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    RE: watch your butts! 2010/09/19 14:07:17 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: 2Bonthewater

    FWIW

    Not in PA........one time, while performing undercover duties in SE PA.......I observed individuals dumping butt after butt into the creek ( actually had two cases )........I picked up several of the disgusting little gems........stopped the guys as they were leaving.....wrote citations for littering...........I WAS TOLD TO WITHDRAW the CITATIONS........that we (PFBC) do not issue citations pertaining to littering cases for cig butts........I bit my tongue and did as I was told..........that was within' the first year I was on the payroll......the one of the two I cited for littering had already paid their ticket.........hope he got a refund !!!!




    every region is different.........but in mine.......I guess you can throw butts as much as you want.........


    I commend you on your service, just wish the guy up in pulaski had as much dedication as you. Watch snaggers working the DSR. 2 guys left with over 20 fish. Guy next to me called the Game Warden, and was told it was private property and nothing could be done. This was encouraged and assisted by the fat old guy who works for dsr and was right there helping them.

    Maybe they greased his palm, but the game warden should have the authority!

    Being from Michigan, the DNR officers act like god...some even think they're god...but dont **** em' off otherwise they cn take your hunting  or fishing away then make you fight to get them back in the court!
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    RE: watch your butts! 2010/09/19 14:49:53 (permalink)
    So if they ran a gill net across the river there would be no penalty? Private property= don't have to obey the law? Bullocks.

    Lyrical
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    RE: watch your butts! 2010/09/19 14:59:01 (permalink)
    It was enough to make one sick Salmo! just sick that 75 snaggers were lined up in a u-shape with the guy in the red shirt at the head of the run banging on a metal thing forcing the fish back down to the snaggers.
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    RE: watch your butts! 2010/09/22 19:43:34 (permalink)







    I commend you on your service, just wish the guy up in pulaski had as much dedication as you. Watch snaggers working the DSR. 2 guys left with over 20 fish. Guy next to me called the Game Warden, and was told it was private property and nothing could be done. This was encouraged and assisted by the fat old guy who works for dsr and was right there helping them.

    Maybe they greased his palm, but the game warden should have the authority!

    Being from Michigan, the DNR officers act like god...some even think they're god...but dont **** em' off otherwise they cn take your hunting  or fishing away then make you fight to get them back in the court!



    Guys from the DSR herded fish back to snaggers???  Sorry, I don't believe you!
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    RE: watch your butts! 2010/09/22 22:39:27 (permalink)
    here we go let the fireworks begin

    I have become comfortably numb
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    RE: watch your butts! 2010/09/23 20:32:29 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: emal7717

    ORIGINAL: 2Bonthewater

    FWIW

    Not in PA........one time, while performing undercover duties in SE PA.......I observed individuals dumping butt after butt into the creek ( actually had two cases )........I picked up several of the disgusting little gems........stopped the guys as they were leaving.....wrote citations for littering...........I WAS TOLD TO WITHDRAW the CITATIONS........that we (PFBC) do not issue citations pertaining to littering cases for cig butts........I bit my tongue and did as I was told..........that was within' the first year I was on the payroll......the one of the two I cited for littering had already paid their ticket.........hope he got a refund !!!!




    every region is different.........but in mine.......I guess you can throw butts as much as you want.........


    I commend you on your service, just wish the guy up in pulaski had as much dedication as you. Watch snaggers working the DSR. 2 guys left with over 20 fish. Guy next to me called the Game Warden, and was told it was private property and nothing could be done. This was encouraged and assisted by the fat old guy who works for dsr and was right there helping them.

    Maybe they greased his palm, but the game warden should have the authority!

    Being from Michigan, the DNR officers act like god...some even think they're god...but dont **** em' off otherwise they cn take your hunting  or fishing away then make you fight to get them back in the court!



    You lost me on that tale..
    Been there many a time along side dec ( even my only salmon trip of the year) .. **** they gave seminars there in spring, & not greased palms....
    also seen the bucket brigade (as we call them ice fishing) escorted off site..
    Absolutely its not perfect.. what in life ever is but
    sorry reality check here..

    "whats that smell like fish oh baby" .. J. Kaukonen
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    RE: watch your butts! 2010/09/23 21:23:10 (permalink)
    hey i hold stock in DSR................. how dare you say this stuff on the net................. we must all keep this a secret....or else...orelse...orelse... i might lose my life savings .. oh my god, i think i'm gonna have a heart attack....actually i'm lying... i was the guide with all of those clients because i own a business and run a sprot shop and outfitters up there... and i greased the wardens palms... please don't tell anyone....................................................................................................................

    dude, there is no way your story is completely true. maybe you saw something and are confused. banging ptos and pans to scare fish back down to snaggers... no way. i thought we put this one to rest already...
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    RE: watch your butts! 2010/09/23 23:31:17 (permalink)
    I did see a Osprey perched in a tree,he had those Salmon scared stiff,but then he left a big crap and flew away........true story!
    Later that day there were some guys pacing back and forth with pots and pans,they told me to get a Michigan Cricket 'cause they are going to start a run!
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    RE: watch your butts! 2010/09/24 10:30:40 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: pafisher

    I did see a Osprey perched in a tree,he had those Salmon scared stiff,but then he left a big crap and flew away........true story!
    Later that day there were some guys pacing back and forth with pots and pans,they told me to get a Michigan Cricket 'cause they are going to start a run!


    Hey DIMEBRITE! too many witnesses to the craap going on in the DSR to continue denying it. Your attitude is clearly that of one who feels that just because they pay their license fee they can do as they please. Typical NJ / NYC / Philly attitude

    "Michigan Crickets" in Michigan we called them "Silver Spiders"! The state passed a great law that angered those from Ohio that came up to snag fish...$100 fine for having one in your possession. New York should do the same!

    L.O.T.A.C. says call the Dispatcher and report the snaggers. When these slobs are driven from the river, it will make room for the rest of us true sportsmen!

    Personally I would love to see No Fishing below the Sewage Treatment Facility all the way down to the mouth...It would end the issue of the DSR's illegal "Commercial Fishing" business.

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    RE: watch your butts! 2010/09/24 12:34:48 (permalink)
    hey emal, have you ever considered counseling with a psychiatrist or a psychologist? i think you would benefit. seriously... you don't even know anyone in here and you just come out trash talking and starting fights. labeling me as a typical nj, nyc, or pa fishermen; which i am far from. these days i spend more time working/spending time with friends and family rather than fishing while up there. in regards to money i spend up there, fishing industry probably recievs the least from me. i mostly spend money on utilities, taxes, lumber/hardware, food establishments,gas stations, groceries/convenience stores, heavy equipment repair and recovery services; the list just keeps going. i am thought of as a local by most i know up there. and i know a lot of people. i am in the process right now of bidding on multiple projects in pulaski and syracuse. looking forward to doing some excavating work for some friends up there as well. no cold shoulders getting thrown my way up there for being an out of towner. so your simple minded words really mean nothing to me.not for nothing but i think i'm going to stoop down to your level by saying... i would put money on it that i am more of a true sportsmen than you. do yourself a favor and stop wasting your time...
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    RE: watch your butts! 2010/09/25 11:33:15 (permalink)
    Emal post the video you lied about having.
    You have no integrity and therefore no credibility.
    I say you are a lying sack. You say you have the proof. SHOW IT.

    Nobody here is pro snagger but we are all anti liar.
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    RE: watch your butts! 2010/09/25 11:39:47 (permalink)
    lmfao...................................................................
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    RE: watch your butts! 2010/09/25 11:49:00 (permalink)
    Just thought I'd politely ask to see his video.
    I mean since he brought it into the conversation I hoped he might show it.
    Since they have finally effectively priced me out I want to be able to hate the DSR also.
    I just need the reason to be true!
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    RE: watch your butts! 2010/09/25 12:48:34 (permalink)
    i would be very surprised if its true... prices have definitely deterred many from going. tthe occasional trippers seem to not be bothered as much as the persistent multiple trippers; for obvious reasons... a friend of mine told me last night he would not mind paying 45 being that he just paid 65 to go out for albacore... but keep in mind, this friend goes once or sometimes every other year... banging metal to scare fish down to snaggers... i don't buy it; and even if he supplies the video i'll have a hard time believing it... i will closely watch it to make sure it's valid if he supplies it... keep in mind people have been attacking barclay for years now... rumors and false videos or documents would definitely help ruin his reputation which what many want to do... think of highschool; remember when a rumor would go out about someone that most knew was untrue and before you know it that kid didn';t come back to the same school the next year... some people are just always looking to stir up the pot... especially the simple minded... which is the majority of our population and government... i guess you could say we are doomed...lol...
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    RE: watch your butts! 2010/09/25 12:54:57 (permalink)
    Iknow DB.
    I figure the more times he is outright called a liar without showing the proof he claims to have the less chance somebody that doesn't know better will believe his crap.
    He made a claim.
    Said he had video proof.
    And then went away without showing anything when called out about it.
    Any thread he posts on I will call him out.
    Lying to hurt someones legal business means he deserves it.
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    RE: watch your butts! 2010/09/25 13:56:54 (permalink)
    i see red when someone attacks my business, whether it's a lie, a false accusation or assumption, etc... especially when it's an attack out of spite... i see red i tell you...
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    RE: watch your butts! 2010/09/25 14:48:05 (permalink)
    I dont fish DSR much anymore but probably will again, in fact I may go there this week  just because of this report. I have always felt they offered the best quality fishing experience on the river. Their personell have always been polite and very professional ( this from a retired cop with 28 years on the job dealing with people). I have seen them correct poor fishing methods and when they have to they have removed people from their private fishery to the benefit of all the others there. I do not now and never had any negative issued with DSR or even heard of one-even when they opened in an area I used to fish free. The trails, off road parking,  control of the fishery and nice people made it well  worth while. ( not to mention the freshest most concentrated fish on the river)

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    RE: watch your butts! 2010/09/25 15:02:25 (permalink)
    good luck when you go. you should consider either internet pre sale or day before pre sale. now is when they start selling out. but you never know;with their new rates they might not ever sell out ever again. which in my opinion is a good thing...
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    RE: watch your butts! 2010/09/25 17:15:04 (permalink)
    Appreciate the heads up-never used the computer to get a tag before.
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    RE: watch your butts! 2010/09/25 20:55:48 (permalink)
    How can a dopy fish be scared of pots and pans while screaming up from a double line of snaggers ( other than the obvious inclination of being cooked). I have had them run right between my legs under similar circumstances and if that doesnt scare them nothing will.
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    RE: watch your butts! 2010/09/28 16:41:35 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: dimebrite

    i see red when someone attacks my business, whether it's a lie, a false accusation or assumption, etc... especially when it's an attack out of spite... i see red i tell you...

     
    Can't say I blame you.
     
    But then again, you provide the goods and/or services in your business dealings.
     
    The guy with the supposed video is FOS.
     
    Even so, I still have a very hard time defending Barclay, who makes his money off a public resource provided by public funds and does absolutely zilch,nada,nothing to contribute back to the fishery.
     
    (Counting cash and deciding how much to report to the IRS does not count).
     
     
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