Best & Worst season

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2010/09/13 10:21:25 (permalink)

Best & Worst season

When did the Coho stocking quit, and when did the steelhead stocking start?? I started fishing for steelhead about 16 or so years ago, I assume that’s about when they started stocking steelhead. My best and worst season, last year was my worst, all the rest were great.
post edited by oncorhynchus - 2010/09/13 10:27:12

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    cbeagler
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    RE: Best & Worst season 2010/09/13 10:57:03 (permalink)
    They were stocking steelhead well before that. We were catching them in the late '70s. They were a bit of a novelty then, like, "Hey Fred, is that a coho? It doesn't look quite right." The steelhead that I have on my wall that I caught in Walnut Creek is over 30 years old.  The fish commision still stocks coho when they can get them, but they have stopped stocking king / chinook for some time now.  Even though, I have seen a few in the last couple of years.

    Best year?  Hard to decide over a 35 year span as far as fish numbers go. Probably the best was when my childhood fishing partner that I had lost contact with looked me up and we went out again and did quite well. That was 2004.

    Worst year. The year I got out of the Navy. 1985 we had a drought so bad that you could walk from manchester to the mall and not get you shoe laces wet. There was no water--I mean none--not just low water. No water.
    post edited by cbeagler - 2010/09/13 11:01:36
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    RE: Best & Worst season 2010/09/13 11:14:46 (permalink)
    Cohos in the nut




    1991
    Coho Salmon
    Fingerling
    150,000

    1992
    Coho Salmon
    Adult
    550

    1993
    Coho Salmon
    Fingerling
    70,000

    1994
    Coho Salmon
    Fingerling
    10,000

    1995
    Coho Salmon
    Fingerling
    10,000

    1996
    Coho Salmon
    Fingerling
    5,000

    1997
    Coho Salmon
    Fingerling
    5,000

    1998
    Coho Salmon
    Fingerling
    5,000

    2000
    Coho Salmon
    Fingerling
    5,000

    2001
    Coho Salmon
    Fingerling
    5,000

    2002
    Coho Salmon
    Yearling
    5,000

    2003
    Coho Salmon
    Yearling
    35,010

     
     
    Total =
    305,56
     
    cohos in elk




    1991
    Coho Salmon
    Fingerling
    150,000

    1993
    Coho Salmon
    Fingerling
    70,000

    1994
    Coho Salmon
    Fingerling
    9,500

    1995
    Coho Salmon
    Fingerling
    10,000

    1996
    Coho Salmon
    Fingerling
    5,000

    1997
    Coho Salmon
    Fingerling
    5,000

    1998
    Coho Salmon
    Fingerling
    5,000

    2000
    Coho Salmon
    Fingerling
    5,000

    2001
    Coho Salmon
    Fingerling
    5,000

    2002
    Coho Salmon
    Yearling
    5,000

    2003
    Coho Salmon
    Yearling
    34,902

     
     
    Total =
    304,402
     
    Godfrey and Trout also had alot with Trout receiving almost double the Hos but the last they were stocked is 02 and last I heard there are NO plans to stock any more.
     
     
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    Screamin Steel
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    RE: Best & Worst season 2010/09/13 11:16:43 (permalink)
    Who would be in favor of bringing them back? Saw a very large fish in lower Elk back in '06 that was in the middle of a large pod of steelies. Back was sticking out of the water, appeared to have very pronounced "hump back" and was probably over 36". Always wondered if it could have been a king or a coho?
    post edited by Screamin Steel - 2010/09/13 11:19:53
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    RE: Best & Worst season 2010/09/13 11:31:22 (permalink)
    I would love to see a combo of Steel, Brown, King and Coho but i dont that is reality
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    RE: Best & Worst season 2010/09/13 11:38:22 (permalink)
    To get signifact returns of Kings and Cohos they would have to be pen reared to Imprint them to the streams, who will pay for the pens? Who will pay for the food in the pens? Who will do the feeding and Maintenance on the pens? Those fish would spend most of the year in Canadian waters of Erie and without the imprinting they would run Canadian rivers as well. Is there enough forage in the lake to sustain a sizeable Salmon population? If it would affect the walleye population that would get shot down as we may already be in for reduced bags on eyes next year. The PFBC gets more bang for their buck with the steelhead as the glorified trout gods love em. You think its bad up there now Imagine 10X the boat traffic banging the mouths right now for Kings. Everyone wants to improve one of the best fisheries already, let it go it works even if there are TOO many trouts.
     
     
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    RE: Best & Worst season 2010/09/13 11:45:28 (permalink)
    eyes should be set @ 4 per day
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    RE: Best & Worst season 2010/09/13 12:25:45 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: psu_fish

    eyes should be set @ 4 per day


    that would only make people who can't catch a limit feel better about themselves.

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    RE: Best & Worst season 2010/09/13 12:36:15 (permalink)
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    eyes should be set @ 4 per day

     
    Under what pretense? What would that do to the charters that make a living off filling the boat? Would as many people book charters if they could take home less fish? What is your reasoning that it should be reduced? I'm curious as with most of the other reduce the limits posts here there are no reasons or facts to back them up.
     
     
     
     
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    RE: Best & Worst season 2010/09/13 12:53:12 (permalink)
    do some research on Lyngbya wollei
     
     
    it has the potential to really hurt the spawning sucess of walleye in Lake Erie, also Ohio DNR has some stuff floating around about blue-green algae
     
     
    make charters a special exeception
    post edited by psu_fish - 2010/09/13 12:55:47
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    RE: Best & Worst season 2010/09/13 14:34:03 (permalink)
    Uh oh....here we go!

    Just sayin'
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    RE: Best & Worst season 2010/09/13 16:00:58 (permalink)
    y should charters be an exception. do they spend more money  than the regular guy that has his own boat yes but they are thee everyday or at least more often than most but that doesnt give them any special rights on something like that.
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    RE: Best & Worst season 2010/09/13 16:08:06 (permalink)
    it doesnt matter if you raise or lower the limits, charter boat or not somebody will not be happy
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    RE: Best & Worst season 2010/09/13 16:16:31 (permalink)
    BRING BACK THE 'HO'S!!!!!

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    RE: Best & Worst season 2010/09/13 17:43:07 (permalink)
    Screaming Steel, That fish you saw in 2006 was a 37 inch, 21 pound 4 oz Steelhead. I saw the Fish Comm. taking it out of the creek. I know the weight because they put it on a scale, AFTER someone found it dead in lower Elk. People had seen it up towards Whitemann's bridge. Can only wonder what that fish weighed when it came in!!  And to think that some guys don't believe Lake Erie Steelys can get as big as Lake Ontario's.
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    RE: Best & Worst season 2010/09/13 17:53:26 (permalink)
    PA (L. Erie) record steelhead --> 20# 3oz
    OH (L. Erie) record steelhead --> 21# 5oz

    NY (L. Ontario)record steelhead --> 31# 3oz

    To quote a famous member here, "just sayin'"




    post edited by Esox_Hunter - 2010/09/13 17:54:15
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    RE: Best & Worst season 2010/09/13 19:22:18 (permalink)
    I think that it is great that someone actually does something that is pro-active in supporting and sustaining the walleye population to protect the future of the great fishery we have here. Just imagine what would happen if it was managed like the PA GAME COMMISSION manages our deer herds !!!
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    RE: Best & Worst season 2010/09/13 21:30:54 (permalink)
    BRING BACK THE COHO

    I have become comfortably numb
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    RE: Best & Worst season 2010/09/13 22:05:14 (permalink)
    I can remember catching kings, cohos and of course steelhead. But wasn't there another starin of stelhead that was tried years ago? back before I knew better my friend and I used to drive up 322 and I think 36 to go fish for the big rainbow trout up in Erie. Used to make the trip in a pale green 57 chevy 2dr wagon (We slept in the back), and later a 66 GTO. (we didn't sleep).
    Wish the fishery was like it was back then, and I wish I still had both of those cars. BTW the chevy was a plain 210 wagon with a 283 and powerglide.

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