KEY TO ARROW PENETRATION

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2010/08/14 10:55:43 (permalink)

KEY TO ARROW PENETRATION

I got this arcticle out of bow hunting magazine written by chuck adams.This is the last last paragraph of the article.Finally'and prehaps most important,broadhead style can make or break penetration in game.For deepest penetration,you need a streamlined head that cuts on contact.The more blades a head has,the less it penetrates due to higher pass through resistance.If you prefer a mechanical broadhead that opens on impact,so-called"slip-cam" mechanicals penetrate the best because the blades slide backwards with almost no added friction upon entry.A poorly designed,high-friction broadhead can waste up 50-percent of your arrow's energy upon impact with an animal.Well with this being said why don't rage get pass throughs?Also i think chuck adams is a pro staffer for rage.I guess you gotta push the product that's pays you.
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    DanesDad
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    RE: KEY TO ARROW PENETRATION 2010/08/14 15:30:29 (permalink)
    Any mechanical expends some of it's kinetic energy opening up. The loss of energy for this purpose would result in less penetration, tho the loss may be minimual. Theoretically a 2 bladed fixed blade cut on contact head should have the most penetration, all else being equal.
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    RE: KEY TO ARROW PENETRATION 2010/08/14 18:26:46 (permalink)
    +1 Sharpness of the head and surface area of the head are the controlling factors all else being equal. Keep away from the heavy bones and most modern heads will shoot through a deer with a 60# or greater draw weight.
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    RE: KEY TO ARROW PENETRATION 2010/08/15 13:42:08 (permalink)
    The 8 deer I have shot with a 2 blade rage, have all been passthroughs.

    Better too far back, than too far forward.
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    RE: KEY TO ARROW PENETRATION 2010/08/15 19:06:53 (permalink)
    I guess so musky with the kind of weight you pull.What kind of bow did you have before the maxxis?
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    RE: KEY TO ARROW PENETRATION 2010/08/15 19:52:13 (permalink)
    I was shooting a Hoyt superslam at 91#. It was only rated at 70 but we did some toying with it.

    Better too far back, than too far forward.
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    RE: KEY TO ARROW PENETRATION 2010/08/16 01:22:41 (permalink)
    How do you get an extra 21# out of a Hoyt Superslam by "toying" with it????
    ORIGINAL: MuskyMastr

    I was shooting a Hoyt superslam at 91#. It was only rated at 70 but we did some toying with it.

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    RE: KEY TO ARROW PENETRATION 2010/08/16 09:43:12 (permalink)
    I'm guessing new limbs.
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    RE: KEY TO ARROW PENETRATION 2010/08/22 18:29:10 (permalink)
    First buck I ever shot 2 years ago I was shooting 42# and 125 grain sattelite 2 blade broadheads, got a complete pass thru. last year shooting 57#, shot a buck with a 3 blade thunderhead 100 grain and didnt pass thru.
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    RE: KEY TO ARROW PENETRATION 2010/08/23 16:20:15 (permalink)
    Every shot is different. Arrow placement is key. Everyone knows whitetails are that difficult to kill if shot placement is right. But in the real world S*** happens and that is where a heavy bow helps out. You getting hit with a bicycle or a freight train will kill ya, but the odds are you certainly will die from the train. Fast light arrows help for miss judged yardage. Heavy bows and heavy arrows well, you cant beat a "TRAIN" 2 blade, 3 blade, expandables all have their place. While the two blade has less drag upon entry and beoynd, the 3 blade or exp. will produce a larger hole. Heavy, light, fast, slow, 2 blade 3 blade they all work. Shoot what gives you the best accuracy with the highest "comfortable" wt. Shot placement is key! my.02cents....
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    RE: KEY TO ARROW PENETRATION 2010/08/23 20:38:10 (permalink)
    I always though the key to arrow penetration was hitting them in the rib cage.  With speed and mass being equal, it comes down to drag and initial energy loss.  Cut-on-contact heads are going to lose less energy on impact then say a chisel point.  More broadhead surface area 3 or 4 blade, etc will increase drag and result in less penetration.  However, one could argue that a broadhead that opened a large hole could get more penetration with less drag from the adjacent tissue.  Or you could argue that the chisel point is better if you hit some bone.  Seems like it can be infinitely debated.
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    RE: KEY TO ARROW PENETRATION 2010/08/24 14:33:53 (permalink)
    I'm still rather impressed with 90# + pulls, I've always stayed in the 65# range just for the comfort and ability to hold it longer while waiting for a deer to step out. I'm still using thunderhead 3 blade chisel points, they've never let me down so I hate to change...

    Just curious, when you're shooting that weight how long can you hold it and still get a relaxed shot off?
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    RE: KEY TO ARROW PENETRATION 2010/08/24 15:35:20 (permalink)
    Pass through gets you a better blood trail; 2 holes instead of 1. I have always thought that an arrow sticking in the lungs, or any vital part, would cut more with every movement the deer makes and cause a lot more damage and internal hemmoraging.As was stated,sharp heads are the real key. Too many companies trying to sell bows and razor heads.....WF
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    RE: KEY TO ARROW PENETRATION 2010/08/31 13:13:50 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: MuskyMastr

    I was shooting a Hoyt superslam at 91#. It was only rated at 70 but we did some toying with it.

    With that setup, you should get a pass thru with a broom handle.
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    RE: KEY TO ARROW PENETRATION 2010/09/08 12:34:33 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Outdoor Adventures

    How do you get an extra 21# out of a Hoyt Superslam by "toying" with it????



    Stainless steel rockers, string weights and draw length. The rockers made most of the difference. Stayed with the same limbs the whole time.

    Better too far back, than too far forward.
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    RE: KEY TO ARROW PENETRATION 2010/09/09 15:25:37 (permalink)
    pretty tough to buy a bad broadhead these days... or a bad bow for that matter as far as im concerned... keep it sharp and place it right, watch em fall
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