trout flies

I just tried out my new fly rod... im trying to get back into fly fishing again. I used to use it for blue gill and sunnies but never trout. What are you guys using to catch stock trout? I tried egg patterns, wooly bugger, green weenie and a green worm thing. I hooked up on a rainbow about 20-24 inches long and a little brook trout both on the egg pattern but most of the day i watched my flies float past fish without a bite or a glance. sometimes they would swim over and check it out maybe a little nibble but nothing. The whole time i wasnt catching anything people are tearing the fish up next to me. What am i doing wrong? Any help would be appreciated.

I feel your pain.   I would suggest it has more to do with your drift and overall presentation than the exact fly.  That is from my limited experience at least.  I am fairly new to FFing also, slowing down while on the stream and watching others who are more experienced has help me a lot.

I agree with bings for flies.  I have had my best luck with hares ears, stone flies, and olive egg-sucking leeches.

Dont let bings fool you...he might be a beginner but he catches a lot of fish  

I have been trying to cast up stream and pulling in line as it comes to me trying to not over do it and affect to motion and i let it float alittle past me and repeat. I am also using a small fish pimp indicator (that the fish love i should put a hook on that) I also put on 1 or 2 micro shot to get it down a little bit.

That trout in that pic sure as heck isn't going anywhere with that dry glove death grip.....

Good job man, you got'eem.

When fishing subsurface you want your flies moving with the current, not being pulled downstream by the line.  I usually cast 90 degrees across from me and then mend the fly line back upstream to try to get a drag free drift.  Personally I don't like indicators.  Also holding your rod vertically to keep as much as of the fly line off the water also helps to get a drag free drift.  You are also in a tighter connection to the fly that way to feel takes. 
 
In freestone streams caddis larva, generic nymphs and egg patterns will work.  In limestone streams scuds, caddis larva, and midge larva seem to work better.
 
Just my 2 cents.  Good luck and welcome to flyfishing.
 
Dave

share some more pics from your library dude. Nice fish and nice poses.  I like that stuff, butt.

ive seen them white zonkers but never picked one up. I thought they woul be more for bass. I went back down and saw people catching them on maggots. I have a hard time bringing myself to buy live maggots to fish with...just thinking that they are alive in my pocket kinda freaks me out alittle bit. Unless there is a similar type of fly to use i guess i might have to suck it up and buy a little tube of maggots and drift them.

ORIGINAL: dewey123

ive seen them white zonkers but never picked one up. I thought they woul be more for bass. I went back down and saw people catching them on maggots. I have a hard time bringing myself to buy live maggots to fish with...just thinking that they are alive in my pocket kinda freaks me out alittle bit. Unless there is a similar type of fly to use i guess i might have to suck it up and buy a little tube of maggots and drift them.

 
Just tie your maggots out of latex.
Condoms(unlubricated), rubber gloves..
 
Here is a link to a tute...
 
http://forums.fishusa.com/latex_caddis_tute/m_282367/tm.htm

^ Agreed.  Sad, but true, those fish are glued to the bottom until an actual pellet, or something that looks similar (even in the form of small pine cone, as witnessed) floats overhead.  But, brown gnat will work until the fish key-in on pellets only.  Once they are in there for awhile they get pretty discerning of pellet imitations.

C-C-C-Combo Breaker!!!

Dru,

We all know you did a little shaving of your Elk Hair Caddis.


PS. I need some chew

haha... makes me wanna waste a day catching hogs up there.  Were you by chance at ferriers run a few nights ago casting to some rising fish? 

those small tan flies you were seeing were prob. caddis.  I fish an atw or two downstream of the club, and they are hatching.

yea, i fish downstream, and fish do escape.

its quite comical when someone the first day of trout catches a pellet fed hog from the club, and freaks out.  Roped to mount, not smoke haha.

I had my fun with that place.  You wait until this summer, if you're lucky, you'll hook into a few carp on the fly.  The lake "Yellow Creek" is not far upstream from the club.  In fact, if you walked upstream far enough on his property, you will see the dam.  There is also a project a few miles downstream called the water works.  It's a smaller dam, and has still water.  Not exactly sure what it's for, but there is all species found in there too. 

If you haven't been at the club when a feeder goes on, I can see why you like the place, once you do witness how the place actually works, you'll be sickened.  What once used to be a nice stretch of public water, is now a posted pellet factory.  I believe natural reproduction could take place up there, but some stream work would have to be done.  In the past few years, he has slowed that water down, almost to the point a spin fisherman would do best there. 

It's funny though, there is some elitist old dudes that fly fish down there, and think they are big time.  I had a dude telling me the Latin names for sulphurs one day, and I'm thinking, buddy, those fish won't rise to a mayfly unless it smells like a pellet.

just started fly fishing and was wondering if anyone who fishes the oil creek area could send me a PM or something and give some ideas on what flies would be good to start with... any advice would be appreciated