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Carp on a Fly
i'm pretty sure there has to be some spots in the area to get carp on a fly. Anyone interested in sharing a spot can pm me, if you don't want to share with everyone. I live in Natrona Heights and i've found a few in Bull Creek. Any tips and pointers are appreciated.
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RE: Carp on a Fly
2009/09/29 21:58:55
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You read the book? Carp on the Fly
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RE: Carp on a Fly
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RE: Carp on a Fly
2009/09/29 22:05:49
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honestly good luck PA is tough for carp flats... and the weather is turning
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RE: Carp on a Fly
2009/09/30 12:35:32
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ORIGINAL: orvis09 i'm pretty sure there has to be some spots in the area to get carp on a fly. Anyone interested in sharing a spot can pm me, if you don't want to share with everyone. I live in Natrona Heights and i've found a few in Bull Creek. Any tips and pointers are appreciated. It might help to find a spot where people feed the ducks bread and such and fish there afterward. I got back into flyfishin' for carp a little this year. Not down your way, but I've caught a few carp on the Shenango River behind a diner. This diner has been various restaurants over the years and the food scraps that get thrown in the river there have attracted the carp----they even hang out there waiting, when the place has been closed up. I've got a few on mostly bread and corn flies, but they would probably hit **** near anything at one point. A pizza shop has just opened there now and the carp have become harder to catch, but got a couple a few weeks ago there. They are likely being well feed now. Guess I have to find a pizza crust fly or maybe a french fry fly. I notice the carp like to come up and nip at the leaves floatin' by now too. I haven't had any luck on carp on the fly elsewhere on the river..................yet, but I'm not much of a fly fisherman. I got into messin' with carp on the flyrod years ago, when they feed on mulberries, fallin' from trees, in the summer, but it's past time for that around here now. FYI, there is a local outdoor writer workin' on a carp fly fishing book that should be out eventually.
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RE: Carp on a Fly
2009/09/30 15:15:03
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please erase
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RE: Carp on a Fly
2009/09/30 17:33:49
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behind wildwood highlands
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RE: Carp on a Fly
2009/09/30 18:59:35
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is that the place where they have that huge fleamarket?
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RE: Carp on a Fly
2009/09/30 20:02:51
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ORIGINAL: pacarper ORIGINAL: orvis09 i'm pretty sure there has to be some spots in the area to get carp on a fly. Anyone interested in sharing a spot can pm me, if you don't want to share with everyone. I live in Natrona Heights and i've found a few in Bull Creek. Any tips and pointers are appreciated. It might help to find a spot where people feed the ducks bread and such and fish there afterward. I got back into flyfishin' for carp a little this year. Not down your way, but I've caught a few carp on the Shenango River behind a diner. This diner has been various restaurants over the years and the food scraps that get thrown in the river there have attracted the carp----they even hang out there waiting, when the place has been closed up. I've got a few on mostly bread and corn flies, but they would probably hit **** near anything at one point. A pizza shop has just opened there now and the carp have become harder to catch, but got a couple a few weeks ago there. They are likely being well feed now. Guess I have to find a pizza crust fly or maybe a french fry fly. I notice the carp like to come up and nip at the leaves floatin' by now too. I haven't had any luck on carp on the fly elsewhere on the river..................yet, but I'm not much of a fly fisherman. I got into messin' with carp on the flyrod years ago, when they feed on mulberries, fallin' from trees, in the summer, but it's past time for that around here now. FYI, there is a local outdoor writer workin' on a carp fly fishing book that should be out eventually.
Nice Mirror on a fly rod! Did you catch it on a regular fly?
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RE: Carp on a Fly
2009/09/30 20:19:48
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still yet to hit a mirror...
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RE: Carp on a Fly
2009/09/30 21:37:22
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Chartiers Creek. Fishes great in Spring and Fall, and if you know the right spots, the Winter. Have landed them on crystal meth, sucker spawn, San Juan worms, PT BH nymphs, to name a few. Up to 15 lbs, and one mirror a few years back.
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RE: Carp on a Fly
2009/10/01 01:01:07
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ORIGINAL: Mountian Man Nice Mirror on a fly rod! Did you catch it on a regular fly? What the hell is a regular fly? I got the one in the pic on a little size 14 bread fly. Just a plain fly, not scented or dipped in flavor or anything. At least I was actually flyfishing (or my best attempt at trying to) and not setting my rod in a stand with a bite alarm like Len and the guys do at Shawnee. The first two carp I landed on da fly this year were mirrors. I did get a couple of commons the last time out with a fly rod. Managed to land a carpsucker as well from the river earlier in the summer, but it was foul-hooked-------didn't even know there were carpsuckers in the river 'til I got that one.
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RE: Carp on a Fly
2009/10/01 07:47:38
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what is a "bread fly"? personally i chase them when the are tailing in mudflats sight casting to active feeders
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RE: Carp on a Fly
2009/10/01 08:52:40
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What the hell is a regular fly? Just a plain fly, not scented or dipped in flavor or anything. At least I was actually flyfishing (or my best attempt at trying to) and not setting my rod in a stand with a bite alarm like Len and the guys do at Shawnee. Like ones that Len doesn't use with the sponge fly soaked in corn juice LOL
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RE: Carp on a Fly
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ORIGINAL: KJH807 what is a "bread fly"? I always thought it was like a big fluffy white glo bug.
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RE: Carp on a Fly
2009/10/01 10:25:21
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That's pretty much what a bread fly is, as long as it white and floats.
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RE: Carp on a Fly
2009/10/01 11:22:56
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Yep, pretty much. Here is one place that I got some carp flies from that I am using, including the bread bundle fly I got the mirror on: http://augustaflyfishing.com/carpflies.html The one corn fly on there is kinda like the one Len uses, tied hair rig style, but carp fluff chuckers have been tying that fly for years. The first time I went out this year flyfishing, I went with that local writer and he's been carpin' on da fly for 40 years, so there was no cheatin' or bastardizin' it with him, so no soaked flies. Here's some other places that have carp specific flies: http://www.madriveroutfitters.com/c-219-carp.aspx?pagenum=1 http://www.uncommoncarp.com/estore/category/565 http://www.yagersflies.com/carpflies.html https://www.msu.edu/~connert/cornfly.htm I did get that carpsucker on a mud flat. Them **** things are hard enough to catch fishin' with real bait let alone a fly, but I got it by hook and crook! The carp I've been getting are active surface (or subsurface) feeders, since they've been trained to take bread, fries and other food scraps. I watched both mirrors I got inhale my fly, no more than 10 ft. from me, subsurface on a slowly sinking fly. Learning how to fight them on my POS (compared to what real flyfishers use I'm guessing, good enough for me as much as I use it, and for stinkin' sewer salmon to boot ) Martin fly outfit (6/7 wt.) has been the fun part-----I've lost as many to snags as I've landed.
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RE: Carp on a Fly
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RE: Carp on a Fly
2009/10/01 21:11:09
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nice flies in that other thread KJ. with the little fly carpin experience i have, i find it hard to believe they hit those flys. anytime i think of feeding carp i think of them sucking bread or chips off the top of the water. are those pulled through the water like a bugger or streamer? hard time imagining a carp making an effort to eat something. whatever they eat is usually just floating in front of them with a lifeless drift.
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RE: Carp on a Fly
2009/10/01 22:37:54
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you have to anticipate where a feeding fish will move... drop close enough... but not too close to spook as the fish approaches, short twitches/strips... looks like a fleeing crawfish or burrowing bug you want to create plumes of mud, something to catch their attention thats if you can get into position to make a cast carp can hear you walking on shore/ wading once they spook, the excrete a sent that alerts other fish to danger
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RE: Carp on a Fly
2009/10/02 04:41:25
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I've seen that other thread before----cool pics. Had my best day yet behind the pizza shop-----hooked four, landed three, on the corn fly; lost the first on the bread fly when it broke me off on a snag. They were skittish about takin' da fly----plenty scoffin' at it. There was a bunch of carp there waitin'. Surprised I was able to get that many before they all spooked. The guy from the pizza shop offered me some pizza crust for bait, but told him that would be too easy. Besides I usually always have bread wit me in the truck if I wanna catch 'em normal like. Told him I need a pizza crust or french fry fly. I guess I could always try this goose turd fly too: http://www.washingtonflyfishing.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=1544&ppuser=440 . One of these days I'll get a carp on a "real" insect fly. I'll have to stop in and get a pizza from that shop, since they're keeping the carp fed. Da corn fly in da lip
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RE: Carp on a Fly
2009/10/02 10:13:56
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ORIGINAL: orvis09 i'm pretty sure there has to be some spots in the area to get carp on a fly. Anyone interested in sharing a spot can pm me, if you don't want to share with everyone. I live in Natrona Heights and i've found a few in Bull Creek. Any tips and pointers are appreciated. Try HIGHLAND PARK DAM, best place, HANDS DOWN, in the area for ALL SPECIES. Good luck, SS
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