THE PRE-RUT

I talked to a few guys about what happen last week.I had 2 of them tell me that they already saw bucks chasing.I could understand small ones this early but the one guy told me he saw a 16 inch 8 point dogging doe.I been doing alot of reading about the colder weather we been having .Everything i read said the rut gets in full swing when the hours of daylight get shorter(november 2nd ).The cold weather just help us out because they chase more in the daylight hours.Does the cold weather have any effect on the rut starting early?

I read a doe will come in to heat the second full moon after the fall equinox.I think november 12 is the day.What i want to know does the cooler weather trigger something in the doe or not?The intensity from the moon brightness does something to there eyes to send them in to estrus.

Here is my feeling on this. I have read alot of books on this and watched videos, went to speeches. I am trying to tell you I have done my research on this....
 
From the time a buck loses its velvet, hes ready to go! Bucks now are always looking for Doe's. but now they are still in there normal routine. I think on oct. 30th through Nov, 10th is going to be your prime time of chasing. But i would rather hunt them now then when they are chasing.
Why, well when the buck has only one thing one its mind, it's really not going to stop for anything. (not saying that I haven't been successful when the chase was on) Right now they are trying to be the dominant buck in the areas. The does will start coming into heat soon, just remember every doe is different and will come in at different times the ones that dont get bread well thats what they consider the second rut.  The daylight does have something to do with it. Here what I would do and I am doing.... I always bleat and grunt every 10 to 15 minutes. Hit active scrapes hard, work the rub lines. For the rublines whatever side the deer is rubbing is usually the way he is traveling. Ok i could go on and on......
Just do this and you will be OK. So far I have past up 4 Eight pointers this year, I am looking for Mr. Big and he is there and he will eventally present a shot!  Just PM me if you have a question.....

I never said nothing about the buck waiting on the full moon to chase doe now did i?Read the statement closely an you'll see or look on the net and do some reading.

ever watch your dog on a hot day??? whats he do?? he lays in the shade and all he wants to do is relax ,deer are the same way its hot the dont wanna move. thats what the cold weather is all about, you gotta figure they got winter coats on already and they get hot easy.. so i think and im not a expert i think you gotta have both things going on to see alot of deer movement the moon is the main thing but the cold makes them move.. the doe will come in to estraus regaurdless if its hot. the deer jsut wont be chasing as much..... just my opinion