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2008/10/16 15:03:29 (permalink)

Muzzys

after shooting spitfires for the past few years i went back to muzzys this year(dont know why because i love the spitfires). anybody else using them this year? if so, any changes(kill wise) since i shot them last(4 years ago)? last i shot them they were darn near perfect in there entry/exits and flew straight as an arrow(pardon the pun)...they look good in the target so far but didnt know if anyone had drew blood with them yet.
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    SilverKype
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    RE: Muzzys 2008/10/16 15:23:21 (permalink)
    I switched to MX-3 100 grain last year from regular 100 grain.  I had no problems with regular, just switched for something new.   To be honest, I think the MX-3 fly a bit better.  But that's not to say the regulars did not.   Keep in mind this was during a transition from a bow 8 years old to a new one.  So, perhaps me thinking the MX-3 flies better is because of the bow.
     
    I usually had to make minimal adjustments from field tips to regular 100's.   I haven't had to do any adjustments with the MX-3.  Again, could have been the bow.  MX-3 are 1/4 wider cut, not that it matters much.
     
    Either one, I like.
     
    I could never get the 4 blade to fly right at distances farther than 25 yards.
     
     

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    RE: Muzzys 2008/10/16 16:35:38 (permalink)
    Years ago, I killed my first couple archery deer with muzzys. I shot the 100 grain 3 blade. As far as strength, there arent many replacable blade heads as strong as a muzzy.
     
    I stopped shooting them after having a few flyers in each pack. To get six broadheads to group, I had to buy 2 packs of six, and set aside the couple that wouldn't group. The ones that wouldn't group, would not pass the spin test on my finger. It seemed the tips that lock in the blades on the fronts were screwing on somewhat crooked therefore sending the arrow slightly out of the group. I haven't shot them since.
     
    Maybe they have corrected the problem in the past 10 years since I shot them, or my experience was a rare one. Either way, I won't be shooting them again, as my confidence is better with other heads.
     
    Why'd you switch from spitfires????? They're a very good head. Killed a few with them myself.
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    RE: Muzzys 2008/10/16 19:15:15 (permalink)
    thanks for the input guys!...
    silver, my brother "tried" to shoot the 4-blades too and he said they were all over the place...i do think the same thing about the mx-3's though...but strangly enough, i switched at the same time i got a new bow too...so, it could be either..
    drake, being in college and having just returned from a week of salmon fishing, 18.99 is easier to come by than 42.99...but those spitfire pro's are darn near perfect...had my first gut shot ever last year and the spitfire did enough damaged to make her bed down about 70 yards from the stand. next morning she had expired...muzzys are what i started out with and i did well with them so i know theyre good, and at the moment i just dont have 40.00...i live in WV and season comes in saturday so me getting spitfires is, well, a little on the down side...
     
    i was also thinking about picking up some "guilatine's" for the fall turkey season down here..anybody try them out yet?..they look hilarious on tv(watching the birds head fly off and all)
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    RE: Muzzys 2008/10/16 22:29:31 (permalink)
    WOW, I didn't realize how much the spitfires were this year. I wouldnt pay that much for them either. I just looked at broadhead prices, they are the most expensive i've seen.
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    RE: Muzzys 2008/10/16 22:53:21 (permalink)
    I had a similar experience to thedrake with the muzzy's.  I used to shoot them with my old bow; they shot well and I took a few deer with them.  When I got my new bow 3 years ago I switched to rockets, I had a problem with them last year and decided to return to muzzy's this year.
     
    I didn't have too much trouble grouping them at less than 25 but beyond that, they didn't wanna fly right for me.  And when they were grouping at closer ranges, they were grouping consistently right and low of my field points.  I took my bow to the shop and aside from making sure my bow was tuned properly it did virtually nothing to improve their flight.  After seeing them fly from my bow I lost all confidence in them and decided it was time for a new head.
     
    Your experience may be totally different than mine and I hope they work better for you than they did for me.  I have sinced switched to 2 blade rages and I don't think I will ever look back.
     
     
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    RE: Muzzys 2008/10/16 23:38:42 (permalink)
    Only broadhead I have and will probably ever use.  Always shot the regular 4 blade, till the mx-4 come out, now I shoot them.  Double Lunged an 8 point last year with them  at 15 yrds, and he never took a step.  Just stood for about 10-15 seconds after the arrow went through him and fell right over.

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    RE: Muzzys 2008/10/17 06:29:48 (permalink)
    I had the same problem too. With the arrows at longer ranges. I have a the same bow since 2000/2001 and never this problem before and don't know why. The bow still shoots real close to the same speed as when new.So went to C&M and had my arrows fletched with Helical vanes and WOW man they really fly stright and true at all ranges. I use thunderheads but muzzys three blade are pretty much the same as in the way they fly.
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    RE: Muzzys 2008/10/17 10:29:58 (permalink)
    MUZZY MX3'S!
     
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    RE: Muzzys 2008/10/17 12:04:53 (permalink)
    Best broad head out here today is the G5 been using it for a while now, I used to shoot spitfire and changed to wasps and then now the G5... And thats just an opinion but ask most guys that use them and they will trll you the same.
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    RE: Muzzys 2008/10/18 21:32:16 (permalink)
    ne1 ever have trouple with getting penetration with thunderheads 2 years ago i hit a doe at 20 arrow only went in about 2 inches so i thought i must of just hit it in the shoulder and a week later hit i buck at about 10 yards and the same thing happened but the buck just stood there and i could tell it wasnt in the shoulder then i spitched to grimmreapers  and shot a doe in the head and the arrow went all the way to the veins then last year shot a doe at 10 yards got pass through and a 8pt at 25 didn't get passthrough but at the angle hit it behind the shoulder and burried all the way up by the neck 
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    RE: Muzzys 2008/10/19 07:32:56 (permalink)
    Man sugarfuzz If your only getting 2 inches of penetration with any broad head you are shooting at the place on the deer.  I don't care if you can hit a nock at whatever yards you shoot. Aiming at the head or shoulders with a bow is just plain UNETHICAL.  A bow is not a GUN !!!!!!!!!!  As a archer you need to have patients on the RIGHT shot that will make i quick kill. I have had made a bad shot and paid the price on wounding a deer and not retrieving it .   I will not shoot unless it is a prefect shot and no archer should. I hope you learn what a bad shot,angle,distance is for the deer sake
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    RE: Muzzys 2008/10/19 21:49:11 (permalink)
    alright guys, i didnt get a shot satuday as hoped for with the muzzys(drew back on a doe, but it never came out of the thicket) but my brother uses them and he shot a spike at 18 yards quartering away. it ran about 13-15 yards, stood there, humped up, and fell over. after watching this unfold from my stand a hundred yards away, i think i'm gonna keep the muzzys. its all about shot placement i know, but they did a fantastic job at ripping up everything they touched on his deer.
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    RE: Muzzys 2008/10/19 22:53:45 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: sugarfuzz12

    ne1 ever have trouple with getting penetration with thunderheads 2 years ago i hit a doe at 20 arrow only went in about 2 inches so i thought i must of just hit it in the shoulder and a week later hit i buck at about 10 yards and the same thing happened but the buck just stood there and i could tell it wasnt in the shoulder then i spitched to grimmreapers  and shot a doe in the head and the arrow went all the way to the veins then last year shot a doe at 10 yards got pass through and a 8pt at 25 didn't get passthrough but at the angle hit it behind the shoulder and burried all the way up by the neck 

     
    I find a lot of things WRONG with this post. I've been shooting Thuderheads for many years and haven't had the problems with penetration like you state. Especially the areas you described. Sounds like you need to possibly shoot a heavier bow weight and practice a lot more before going into the woods and wounding animals. Ethical shots.....
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    RE: Muzzys 2008/10/19 23:33:58 (permalink)
    did you 2 not read the post i did not hit it in the shoulder hit it perfect switched broadheads and got pass through i can't stupidfy anymore for you
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    RE: Muzzys 2008/10/19 23:36:31 (permalink)
    Nice try Peacy
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    RE: Muzzys 2008/10/19 23:39:33 (permalink)
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    RE: Muzzys 2008/10/20 12:21:40 (permalink)
    What poundage are you shooting?
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    RE: Muzzys 2008/10/20 12:36:30 (permalink)
    was 65 with the muzzys when i switched to the reapers i upped it to 70 or 60 than 65 now i can't remember exactly my buddy adjusted it for me i'll find out for him but it was plenty enough to get passthrough
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    RE: Muzzys 2008/10/20 12:44:11 (permalink)
    its at 65 now
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    RE: Muzzys 2008/10/20 12:57:27 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: sugarfuzz12

    its at 65 now

    you should have NO problem with pass throughs.  I shoot a gold tip arrow with a 70lb bow and shoot G5 broad heads.... basically the same thing you are shooting.
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    RE: Muzzys 2008/10/20 13:04:46 (permalink)
    ya i havn't since i switched broadheads but even lower poundage should work i know a girl that killed a mule deer at 42 pounds and an elder guys that hunts here only using 45 and never had any problems
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    RE: Muzzys 2008/10/21 12:01:48 (permalink)
    honestly i think its just one of those things....i shot a 6pt with my the old jennings i had...bow set for 70lbs. arrow speed around 250fps...easton superslam aluminum arrows(right before the carbons got big/came out)....23 yard shot, arrow went in about 3 inches(to the heart) and that was it...i killed the deer but the fact that the arrow only went in a couple inches made me wonder....again..i think its one of those unexplainable mysterys that come with hunting...just like when a deer blows stomps and runs even though you know it didnt bust you...just happenstance...i will say i've used thunderheads and they are good heads....but again, just another one of those things.
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