dealinsteel
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Latest on Pymie's bread problem...
"The state now says the primary concern is helping the U.S. Department of Agriculture control the geese population. Bread draws the geese, too, and the USDA won't curb their population if people are feeding them." Straight from the Post-Gazette... http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08262/913129-100.stm
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Skip16503
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RE: Latest on Pymie's bread problem...
2008/09/18 11:34:44
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I heard on the local news last night they dropped this whole no bread thing
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RE: Latest on Pymie's bread problem...
2008/09/18 12:34:39
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...and you're allowed only 1 goose...when the season is "in"...
make a 1 goose limit on the opener for duck....that would reduce the pop.
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RE: Latest on Pymie's bread problem...
2008/09/18 12:46:53
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First it was the bread and snakes were bad for the fish problem, then it was a litter problem, and now its a goose management problem. most of the birds that are actually at the spillway are ducks. Sound more like a greed problem. They wanted you to pay $4.00 for a little bucket (which you had to rent I heard) of fish pellets that probably cost them a dime to buy. There is what 10000 acres that surrond the spillway that is a goose management area if geese are truly the concern now sounds like they're not soing a very good job of managing.
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RE: Latest on Pymie's bread problem...
2008/09/18 13:24:29
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Agreed Wilbur. If you want to take care of the goose population, open the goose season earlier. The last several years it has been in mid to late November.
When it coinsided with the opening of duck, that was great!
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RE: Latest on Pymie's bread problem...
2008/09/18 18:55:32
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As for me the best goose population management tool I ever had was a 12 ga 3" magnum with 1.5 oz of # 4's!
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RE: Latest on Pymie's bread problem...
2008/09/18 22:52:03
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ORIGINAL: Toad
First it was the bread and snakes were bad for the fish problem, then it was a litter problem, and now its a goose management problem. most of the birds that are actually at the spillway are ducks. Sound more like a greed problem. They wanted you to pay $4.00 for a little bucket (which you had to rent I heard) of fish pellets that probably cost them a dime to buy. There is what 10000 acres that surrond the spillway that is a goose management area if geese are truly the concern now sounds like they're not soing a very good job of managing.
LMAO!!!!!! what a joke. promoting the feeding of carp/waterfowl/seagulls for decades. spending $1.??? millions to redo the spillway. complaints by biologists and so-called specialists from litter to phoshates, to algae blooms to poor fishing conditions, to too many geese that have acres and acres of propagation area, to charging $4 for pellets. Pellets that most likely retail for $10/50lb bag. all comes down to $$$. couldnt make any $$$ at 3 loaves/$1. absolutely priceless  .
post edited by *commander* - 2008/09/18 23:07:59
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bigben7
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RE: Latest on Pymie's bread problem...
2008/09/18 23:18:07
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i wonder if the cats will still bite bread?
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RE: Latest on Pymie's bread problem...
2008/09/19 00:06:29
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jmo and might be wrong but i dont see the bread going away. are wco's gonna be on watch and handing out citations for feeding bread to the fish? what's the fine?
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RE: Latest on Pymie's bread problem...
2008/09/19 00:15:48
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As for me the best goose population management tool I ever had was a 12 ga 3" magnum with 1.5 oz of # 4's!
indy, still is a mighty fine tool.
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RE: Latest on Pymie's bread problem...
2008/09/19 05:54:42
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Glad to see politics winning out over sound environmental practices...
Just beacuse it's been done for decades doesn't make it right....
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RE: Latest on Pymie's bread problem...
2008/09/19 06:05:02
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They are delaying the ban for one year. Waterfowl (goose), seasons, and limits are set by the Feds not the state. Most likely they will not go along with increasing bag limits, or season lengths to control Goose populations where feeding not only occurs, but is basically sanctioned.
Get Informed, Get Involved, And Make A Difference. Step Up, or Step Aside The next time you say "Somebody should do something", remember that YOU are somebody. GL
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RE: Latest on Pymie's bread problem...
2008/09/19 07:56:36
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Nothing is Free!! Reward equals Effort
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RE: Latest on Pymie's bread problem...
2008/09/19 15:19:18
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Personally I don't think switching to pellets would hurt the tourist trap one bit. They still get to feed the fish..
Is there really that many people in Linesville depending on the bread sales to survive..
Too hear some of those folks speak, without the bread they would all go broke and starve...
They want to pass a law to help out pymie then how bout a law that puts the spillway off limits for fishing while the walleye are trying to spawn. Maybe let those fellas try to fill their freezers the old fashioned way..Shootin fish in a barrel is no fun.....
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RE: Latest on Pymie's bread problem...
2008/09/19 15:27:51
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^^
That's is about the smartest thing I've read on this board in a while.
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RE: Latest on Pymie's bread problem...
2008/09/19 15:38:42
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ORIGINAL: bingsbaits
Glad to see politics winning out over sound environmental practices...
Just beacuse it's been done for decades doesn't make it right....
At least some people get it.
Better too far back, than too far forward.
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RE: Latest on Pymie's bread problem...
2008/09/19 21:14:25
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ORIGINAL: MuskyMastr
ORIGINAL: bingsbaits
Glad to see politics winning out over sound environmental practices...
Just beacuse it's been done for decades doesn't make it right....
At least some people get it.
yeah, we need more politics .
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*commander*
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RE: Latest on Pymie's bread problem...
2008/09/19 21:17:40
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ORIGINAL: bingsbaits
They want to pass a law to help out pymie then how bout a law that puts the spillway off limits for fishing while the walleye are trying to spawn. Maybe let those fellas try to fill their freezers the old fashioned way..Shootin fish in a barrel is no fun.....
imo that would be great. dont see it happening, but its a great idea.
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RE: Latest on Pymie's bread problem...
2008/09/19 22:07:25
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I heard that it might be a possibility after all the problems that happened there this spring. As for the geese there drove by yesterday about 6:15 PM. There were about 10 people there feeding the fish. I saw a total of one goose at the spillway. Lots of ducks but only one goose. Most of the geese are in the surronding fields. This is the way I see it most everytime I go by there.
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RE: Latest on Pymie's bread problem...
2008/09/19 23:45:39
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maybe it's not geese crap at all. have the geese been witnessed crapping in the lot. maybe it should be tested. perhaps the ducks and seagulls have it in for the geese  . geese crap was never a problem as it blended in with the old pavement/asphalt. the pretty new pavement/asphalt makes it easier to see  .
post edited by *commander* - 2008/09/19 23:51:23
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RE: Latest on Pymie's bread problem...
2008/09/19 23:50:43
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I heard that it might be a possibility after all the problems that happened there this spring. As for the geese there drove by yesterday about 6:15 PM. There were about 10 people there feeding the fish. I saw a total of one goose at the spillway. Lots of ducks but only one goose. Most of the geese are in the surronding fields. This is the way I see it most everytime I go by there.
taking the spillway walleye fishing away may cause a lynch mob by those fellas. who'd have thought such a small waterfall filled with carp 6 months a year and walleye 2 months a year would cause such a ruckus .
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