What do you see/thing about this picture

This picture appears in a 2008 calendar that I received yesterday.

Take a look.

Please comment.


http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/swjankovic/CalendarFish-1.jpg

If that's what it is... then it's interesting they published it in a calendar. Or... they didn't even realize it.

Yeah that's what it looks like...
 
Who sent it?

yeah you can just see it coming out the other side

ORIGINAL: killdeer19

Let me guess... TU calander?

 
That would be my guess too

You think they just missed that? Or they knew and published it anyways...cause it is a pretty neat picture, minus it being lined.
 
Either way it should have been caught before being published.

All that said, I've occassional watched fish take a fly and when I landed it the hook showed up in strange places. Hooks can move during a battle, sometimes the line gets rapped around a fish as it twists and turns, then if the hook pulls out it ends up somewhere else. But most likely, that fish was lined.  I've even seen lined fish where the hook ended up inside the mouth or in the tongue. Things happen when big fish are thrashing around.

Interesting picture.  I wonder if the guy who landed it realized the fish was lined?  I talked with a guy yesterday who was lining fish and explained why what he was doing was wrong and either he did not honestly know, or was covering up.  He had a hard time understanding that dropping the fly on the far side of the fish and then pulling the line through the mouth was a wrong thing to do.  He was watching as a fish hit my sucker spawn and he said that was the same thing as what he was doing.  When I showed him the fish and where the fly was located and explained the difference, he just shock his head and walked down the stream.  My impression was he did not understand the difference between a fish taking a fly and lining a fish.
 
 

Without hijacking the thread,  elephanthead, you bring up an interesting point.  Wild steelhead?  I guess if DB did not have to stock them and allowed the rest of us poor slobs to fund the stocking,  he might think they are wild.  Also, since he does not feed these fish like the ones I have heard he feeds on "his" streams, he might also think they are wild.
 
If it weren't for the fact that the license buying fishing public as well as local clubs who actually pay for the fish that DB and his clients are catching, I would just laugh at the whole thing.  It makes me sick that this guy and his rich buddies are making a killing off publicly subsidized fish and all the while telling the world how much good they are doing conserving the streams of PA. 
 
BTW - I had a thought.  As far as I know it is illegal to sell or traffic in game fish caught in PA waters.  Why is it legal then to charge outrageous fees to fish for the fish?  At some level that could be seen as selling or trafficing in game fish.  I realize they are selling the opportunity to catch the fish and not the fish themselves, but somehow that seems like an end run around the intent of the law, which in my humble opinion and I am no lawyer, to prevent people from making a profit directly off of the game fish.  Oh well, I am sure if you have enough money, you can justify anything.

rsquared

I would tend to agree that the main legal issue is access, but SRC would not be seeking the access if there were no steelhead in the streams.  I also realize what they are doing is legal under our current laws, but it does make me angry to watch a resource being hijacked by people who are supposed to be sportsmans.  I guess we will need to redifine sportsman in the future to be mean anyone with enough money to afford to fish or hunt.
 
Bottomline, I think it is wrong that the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania along with private not for profit clubs stock the tribs and then have a group of rich elitest come in and buy up access to the streams.  I would say that we need to have a change in the law that makes it illegal to sell access to the streams where the fish that are stocked in those streams were put there at public expense.  I don't have a problem with folks posting their land if they want to keep people off, but they should not be allowed to profit from posting it and then leasing it to private fishing clubs. 
 
Another idea would be if a club leases land for their members, they should be requires to provide an equal amount of stream of equal quality to be made available for public fishing.  In other words, for every mile of stream SRC sets aside for it's clients, they should be forced to provide an equal amount of stream for public fishing.
 
Of course, the best solution would be to stop stocking the fish.  No fish, no fisherman, no problems.  Let SRC and their clients chase the "wild" steelhead in a few years after the stocking ends...  We will see how many will pay to walk the beautiful creeks of NW PA and catch chubs and suckers....

Seen that done too for a picture. Thought I was gonna sh*t when those nitwits did that.    Dave

ORIGINAL: Bughawk

Without hijacking the thread,  elephanthead, you bring up an interesting point.  Wild steelhead?  I guess if DB did not have to stock them and allowed the rest of us poor slobs to fund the stocking,  he might think they are wild.  Also, since he does not feed these fish like the ones I have heard he feeds on "his" streams, he might also think they are wild.

If it weren't for the fact that the license buying fishing public as well as local clubs who actually pay for the fish that DB and his clients are catching, I would just laugh at the whole thing.  It makes me sick that this guy and his rich buddies are making a killing off publicly subsidized fish and all the while telling the world how much good they are doing conserving the streams of PA. 

BTW - I had a thought.  As far as I know it is illegal to sell or traffic in game fish caught in PA waters.  Why is it legal then to charge outrageous fees to fish for the fish?  At some level that could be seen as selling or trafficing in game fish.  I realize they are selling the opportunity to catch the fish and not the fish themselves, but somehow that seems like an end run around the intent of the law, which in my humble opinion and I am no lawyer, to prevent people from making a profit directly off of the game fish.  Oh well, I am sure if you have enough money, you can justify anything.

 
 I think what DB is doing is wrong,also lining,flossing,lifting what ever you want to call it is unethical.But if what he is doing is selling and trafficing in fish.Well then they would have to outlaw all guides and charter boats!
  About lining,what if that king clamped down on the head of that fly?When you set the hook where would it go?Not sticking up for poor sportman but sometimes the fish get hooked out side the mouth.I throw spoons off of breakwalls alot.And many fish are hooked outside in.Is that to say I am lining fish in 30' of water.No,the fish attacks the spoon from the side,I set the hook and it pulls forward and hooks them on the out side.Just wanted to speak my thoughts on this.If you are throwing a size 16 sucker spawn and hook it outside lined.but the fly in the pi must be about 4" so I can see the fish hitting it up front and the hook being driven into its jaw.

It is possible to line with other techniques, but that is the rig that leads to the most lining of fish. Some also call it "flossing".

What Bug described sounded more like outright snagging, also refered to some as "lifting". Let the hook drift near the head and "lift".

Bottom line is it's all crap.

Nah!  Some of us just call that Force Feeding.

That old saying about taking a horse to water but not making him drink has it's place on the steelhead streams, too.  Sorta.

When they are coming right for you, you have to set the hook.