2024/12/27 10:33:17
r3g3
Trump has brought in 2 of the greatest business people to make suggestions on where to cut Govt spending and still get the job done.
This has terrified tax and spend politicians from across the board who talk about the debt but do nothing to lower it.
Pundits and TDS people out there doing handstands and tons of moon howling over this--The more they shout the more I believe he is doing the right thing.
TRYING to get it done where no one else has done crap other than BS about it.
2024/12/27 10:49:10
crappiefisher

2024/12/27 12:07:24
r3g3
Another Harris quote ??
2024/12/27 12:57:14
crappiefisher
 Don't you believe me?? Had to look at the picture on the box to help but still got'er done.
 
 My 5 year old G.S. figured out the formula for a   in no time on Christmas day.
 
  Pretty sure a high school kid could figure out how to cut unneeded waste $$ for the Government.
 
 When I worked for the U.S. Department of Labor and would take quotes/bids off the FAQs machine from contractors I would just laugh and shake my head.
 
  
2024/12/27 14:12:51
genieman77
crappiefisher
 
  Pretty sure a high school kid could figure out how to cut unneeded waste $$ for the Government.
 
 When I worked for the U.S. Department of Labor and would take quotes/bids off the FAQs machine from contractors I would just laugh and shake my head.
 
  





 
for the last 6 years, I've been  an inspector/project manager/spec writer (all three are part of my responsibilities)  for a non profit development Co that fed, state and local gov pays us to administer their HUD money programs 
the amount of paperwork involved for us (and contractors) is obnoxious .
On my end, a simple little chittin' $15k job has a 5" thick binder full of paperwork that gets audited by the state every year 
 
Gov work is FAR more cumbersome compared to private system.
The PITA factor adds costs to gov funded work 
 
 
..KTF
 
2024/12/27 14:36:47
crappiefisher
 Bad thing is some of the work being contracted out was still under warranty and should've been covered free of charge.  
 
 Heck, Some of the jobs a crew of 3 - 4 could do in three days and the bids would be outrages. I knew what the materials would cost. Just trying to get over on the Stupid Government.
 
  On a side note PORK is on sale this week. Have to go cutup/wrap 125 lbs. now.   
2024/12/27 14:50:34
MyWar
psu_fish

 
I know, you'll blame the GOP for this, but again who had majority in both chambers and who was sitting at the White House? But now Elon is the problem 


You have got to be kidding.

Are you really gonna try to play this game and say Democrats are just as bad because (again) schumer couldn’t turn water into wine and get this through the senate when he could not afford to lose a SINGLE VOTE?? It’s the democrats fault that there was a razor thin margin in the senate and Schumer can’t perform miracles? Is that it?

Remember, this was December 2022, before Fetterman won his seat, so the senate was tied 50/50, with Harris the tie breaking vote. And it’s right in the article you linked - Manchin and McConnell killed it.

BTW if you want to throw Republican lite Joe manchin in with Elmo and Trump as “part of the problem”, I have no problem with that.

But not ONE SINGLE REPUBLICAN in the senate would support this. What do you think about that? Not one! What does that say about the priorities of the Republican caucus in the senate?

The Democrats tried and failed, yep, that is true. But they failed BECAUSE of republicans. ALL OF THEM.

Also, it’s noteworthy that this stalled in the senate and not the house, which means the funding did actually get through the house.

Look dude, if this kind of flimsy logic is really how you rationalize your support of a morally bankrupt political party then hey, do whatever you need to do in order to sleep at night. But you are not going to convince any objective, rational person that democrats in Congress are the reason this funding can’t get passed.
2024/12/27 15:02:25
psu_fish
MyWar
psu_fish

 
I know, you'll blame the GOP for this, but again who had majority in both chambers and who was sitting at the White House? But now Elon is the problem 


You have got to be kidding.

Are you really gonna try to play this game and say Democrats are just as bad because (again) schumer couldn’t turn water into wine and get this through the senate when he could not afford to lose a SINGLE VOTE?? It’s the democrats fault that there was a razor thin margin in the senate and Schumer can’t perform miracles? Is that it?

Remember, this was December 2022, before Fetterman won his seat, so the senate was tied 50/50, with Harris the tie breaking vote. And it’s right in the article you linked - Manchin and McConnell killed it.

BTW if you want to throw Republican lite Joe manchin in with Elmo and Trump as “part of the problem”, I have no problem with that.

But not ONE SINGLE REPUBLICAN in the senate would support this. What do you think about that? Not one! What does that say about the priorities of the Republican caucus in the senate?

The Democrats tried and failed, yep, that is true. But they failed BECAUSE of republicans. ALL OF THEM.

Also, it’s noteworthy that this stalled in the senate and not the house, which means the funding did actually get through the house.

Look dude, if this kind of flimsy logic is really how you rationalize your support of a morally bankrupt political party then hey, do whatever you need to do in order to sleep at night. But you are not going to convince any objective, rational person that democrats in Congress are the reason this funding can’t get passed.



 
You really dont like being called out.....perhaps you should stick with Bluesky Social LMAO.
 
 
DEMS were the majority in both chambers and held the Presidency/VP. If they really cared about 9/11 funding, they could have done so. 
 
Reconciliation Bills only need a 50 votes to pass...well guess who had that in the bag? You can take one guess 
 
CRY/MORE 
 
 
2024/12/27 15:55:08
Porktown
genieman77
for the last 6 years, I've been  an inspector/project manager/spec writer (all three are part of my responsibilities)  for a non profit development Co that fed, state and local gov pays us to administer their HUD money programs 
the amount of paperwork involved for us (and contractors) is obnoxious .
On my end, a simple little chittin' $15k job has a 5" thick binder full of paperwork that gets audited by the state every year 
 
Gov work is FAR more cumbersome compared to private system.
The PITA factor adds costs to gov funded work 
 
 
..KTF
 

I do similar with many being multi $M projects. When you are a contractor for a specific agency, you are able to use interagency agreements like MIPRs, which are a fraction of the paperwork. The government can transfer funds per agency with very little paperwork. This is why many larger companies have government contractors as part of their business model. It is a ton of paperwork and expense up front to get them on as contractors, but the intent is to cut this waste and time for the agencies. Which I imagine every project has most of the same redundant 5” thick paperwork that should be able to just reuse, but likely can’t.

Btw, I have been doing it in different roles for 27 years (in a few days). If a direct DOJ employee, I’d be fully retired and likely double dipping as a contractor now…. So, not only would the government be paying my retirement, but having to hire a replacement and likely paying for a contractor to be part of that team. I haven’t worked with any direct government employees that fully knows how to implement my company’s products and services. Most agencies have teams that are familiar, but more or less representatives for those agencies. Pretty much what the majority of federal contractors do, a link between a company with specific products/services and the government agencies. The company side has more focus on the product/service specs. The government side on their needs/requirements.
2024/12/27 16:10:34
MyWar
r3g3

Pundits and TDS people out there doing handstands and tons of moon howling over this--The more they shout the more I believe he is doing the right thing.
TRYING to get it done where no one else has done crap other than BS about it.


Because “we need to cut government waste” is a blanket statement that lots of people agree with, until you start talking specifics.

And if you really want to plug budget deficits and make a dent in the national debt then you need to make drastic cuts to things like social security and Medicare. There is no other way. Everything else is just chipping away at the margins.

Also, this idea that “Elon Musk makes people that I don’t like angry, therefore Elon Musk must be right” is extremely flawed logic (and that’s putting it gently). The things he says and does should be judged on their own merit, and although he’s proven that he is extremely good at amassing tremendous amounts of personal wealth and promoting his own personal brand, I’m not sure he’s proven much of anything else.

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