Agree on the middle East-they have been killing each other over there for 2,000 years in the name of religion and IMHO will never stop, Stay out.
We have protected and financed Europe since 1945 ish and its high time they at least met their own minimum NATO self protection standards which they scream and howl about every time its brought up.
This as they stress about our plan to reduce American troops on their soil by 20,000 out of 200,000 and DOGE is likely to reduce our granting of billions to various countries.
Its not isolationism but common sense to be fair but not their big brother any longer- about time they put on their big boy pants and stopped pointing fingers at bad America so often as we cover their collective asses.
Ukraine has turned out to be nothing but a mess with people running both sides who refuse any sensible alternatives.
 
First time i ever went along with the majority of anything War has said -we are slipping lol.

We are fighting to stop the spread of Communism ah the old domino theory where have I heard of that before!!!!!!.When did Ukraine become an ally?I didn't think they were admitted to NATO yet.How can billions that have been spent be called isolationism esp since we are the only ones spending the money. Ah again now the EU finally wants to help Imagine that at least till Russia shuts off their fossil Fuels.

r3g3
We have protected and financed Europe since 1945 ish and its high time they at least met their own minimum NATO self protection standards

What is the logic behind this talking point? What’s the desired outcome? Are we gonna reduce military spending or something?

The military spending budget increased during trumps first term. The house budget resolution that just passed has another $100 billion increase. Military spending will increase again during trumps second term, guaranteed.

European nations in NATO have already increased military spending in response to Trump’s demands from his first term yet our budget planning is no different and we are still walking away from Ukraine.

So what’s the goal here? It’s not like we are pushing these countries to spend money so we don’t have to. We are still spending ungodly amounts of money on the military, and then when a situation arises that actually requires our military expertise we walk away.

I would be ecstatic if we could redirect military spending to healthcare or infrastructure or social security or something that really benefited society. But that is not what’s happening. In reality this is just a talking point that sounds great at first but it falls apart with the tiniest little bit of critical thinking. Its just more empty Trump rhetoric.

Hey Ice--
Remember all the Hunter dealings with foreign businesses and the BIG GUY and Joe telling a country to stop investigating a business Hunter was with or NO US funding-so they stopped the investigation. All the suspicions of influence peddling with Hunter and Joe?
Mostly ALL UKRAINE business.
Explains a lot.

r3g3
 
Ukraine has turned out to be nothing but a mess with people running both sides who refuse any sensible alternatives.
 

Disagree, Zelensky has all my support.  What is he supposed to do?  You listened but didn't HEAR what he said to Trump the other day.  There is no honest deal making with Putin, that's it.  Also, there's a very real chance that if Zelensky makes a bad deal, he's dead and any deal is thrown out.   Are you sure there's not hardliners in Ukraine calling the shots?  I'm not.  This guy was a f-in comedian before he was president and his country was attacked.  He's certainly not the picture of hardline, war hawk stoicism.  
 
Would Israel go for a "meh" deal?  Let alone one where they are actually getting screwed...That answer is no, because they have people that would rather die than live under subjection and tyranny?  This country used to have some of those.  It's how we were founded.  

In other news...since Trump is cancelling funding that is congressionally approved are we now in an era of "taxation without representation"?  Hold up on your filing We might have to make some tea.  
 
Saw that floating around from the Alt Parks Svc.  
 
It's a tough one to refute
 

LDD

Would Israel go for a "meh" deal?  Let alone one where they are actually getting screwed...

Israel you say?

Rubio just signed off on another $4 billion to Israel so Netanyahu can continue murdering women and children.

https://www.foxnews.com/p...gly-withheld-biden.amp

No handwringing about Israel not spending enough, no “you didn’t say thank you”, no hesitation at all when it comes to killing brown people. Funny how that works.

Sounds like the EU is fracturing also Oban,Fico and meloni all are saying no aid to ukraine.I guess it's tough to fight the country that keeps you from freezing to death with gas ect and then turn around and spend billions to fight them. speaking of killing children we only killed slightly over 1 million last year.

Trade war launched...with...our closest ally?  
 
 

Good Job Dems not 1 vote on the Protection of women and girls sports act.You guys really are the party of women,and thats funny cause you all can't even define one LMAO