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genieman77

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If I change the analogy to a "midwestern cattle town post Civil War" does that lessen the blow for you?  
 
Generally, the "Wild West" loves itself some guns and the ARs are a pretty attractive and increasingly cheap gun.  This is America, people shoot each other...a lot.  That's all I was saying.  

lets get real
90% of those "people shooting  each other" are in less than 10% of the country in the da hoods
but now you're saying we have to worry  about laid off liberals fed workers going postal? 
 
 I'm not surprised.
 
 
 
KTF 

yeah, and other places too. 
Stats of the States - Firearm Mortality

Not at all surprising some of you guys still don't understand how to interpret statistics after the last 5 years.  
 
Your CDC map is the rate of all firearms deaths by population.  That would include suicide, accidental shootings, deaths by law enforcement, justifiable homicide by citizens in self defense, etc.  Do you not understand the problem in using that to refute what you're trying to refute?  
 
Statistically, the number is probably actually closer to 90% percent of homicides by firearm happening in about 5-7% of US counties every year, with some variations year to year.  The pattern holds but expands slightly for the very general crimes committed with firearms.  
 
No matter how much you want to white wash it, gun violence in the US is overwhelmingly concentrated in areas and among specific demographics that people never really want to talk about.  And handguns are the most often used weapons in gun crimes by a wide margin.  Not scary black rifles.  Or red, white, and blue ones.  
 
You make it sound like your fellow government employees are really unstable and prone to violence.  
 
 

snagr
 
 
 
 
No matter how much you want to white wash it, gun violence in the US is overwhelmingly concentrated in areas and among specific demographics that people never really want to talk about.  And handguns are the most often used weapons in gun crimes by a wide margin.  Not scary black rifles.  Or red, white, and blue ones.  
 
You make it sound like your fellow government employees are really unstable and prone to violence.  
 
 

 
most people believe what they "want' to believe, Snagr
To make it worse, their "perceptions" blinds them to  reality 
 
KTF 
 
 
 

MyWar

DarDys

Welcome to the public sector,

There ya go, classic conservative. “Screw you, I got mine”.

If there was ever any doubt that MAGA was about retribution, not governance, it’s all coming out now.

More like “screw you,” I’ve been laid off 4 times in my career, all by actions directly attributable to Democrat administrations, despite education and hard work, so I didn't get mine, now it’s your turn to experience what the private sector has.

Is that retribution or turn about is fair play? Either way, welcome to the world outside the bubble.

LDD
 
yeah, and other places too. 
Stats of the States - Firearm Mortality

 
is that supposed to disprove what I said? 
break it down the individual states by county level, exclude suicide, then show me where what I said isn't accurate
 
I'll wait  
 
KTF
 
 

I'm just calling a spade a spade...Americans are violent, any way you cut it.  And, we have lots of cheap guns that are made to kill people.  That's it, that's all, no agenda, no GOTCHA...if you don't agree with those two points then I'm not sure you're dealing in reality.  
 
Americans are prone to gun violence...of all types.  That is my point.  Why is that? We could talk about that all day but my initial point was that when economic and societal pressures are put on people that is certainly a trigger...for suicide, homicide, patricide, infanticide...whatever.  We shoot ourselves and each other at alarming rates.  We're also great at providing guns that are specialized to kill ourselves and each other for very reasonable prices, mainly hand guns...YOU ARE CORRECT.   But, this $hit is cheap.  That was my original point about the ARs at Grices...literally, just an observation.  
 
Aaaannnndd...if you dont' think America IS still the "Wild West" in a lot of ways then yinz spend waaaayyy more time at the country club than I do. Get out there and see...but take your gunz, you're going to need them. 
 
Here are the counties...based on CDC data...interesting stuff...
 How Have the Top Counties For Firearm Homicides in the United States Changed Over the Past 5 Years?

genieman77

LDD
 
yeah, and other places too. 
Stats of the States - Firearm Mortality

 
is that supposed to disprove what I said? 
break it down the individual states by county level, exclude suicide, then show me where what I said isn't accurate
 
I'll wait  
 
KTF
 
 

 
...and actually, I don't think suicide should be excluded in any discussion of violence in our country, gun or otherwise...it's a telling stat that speaks to the mental health of our country which is directly related to gun violence.

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genieman77

snagr
 
 
 
 
No matter how much you want to white wash it, gun violence in the US is overwhelmingly concentrated in areas and among specific demographics that people never really want to talk about.  And handguns are the most often used weapons in gun crimes by a wide margin.  Not scary black rifles.  Or red, white, and blue ones.  
 
You make it sound like your fellow government employees are really unstable and prone to violence.  
 
 

 
most people believe what they "want' to believe, Snagr
To make it worse, their "perceptions" blinds them to  reality 
 
KTF 
 
 
 

Why don't you help me out Genie and explain to me what I "believe" and what my blind spots are?  My wife is at work so she can't explain my deficiencies right now. 

LDD
 
 
Why don't you help me out Genie and explain to me what I "believe" and what my blind spots are? 
 
 

 
The 'wild west" thing would be a shoe that fits methinks .
 
I get around all over, even in the da hood.
Your "perceptions" don't match my observations 
 

LDDMy wife is at work so she can't explain my deficiencies right now. 

 
 
take notes when she gets home...
 
KTF 
 

MyWar

DarDys

Welcome to the public sector,

There ya go, classic conservative. “Screw you, I got mine”.

If there was ever any doubt that MAGA was about retribution, not governance, it’s all coming out now.

Have you stopped stealing from your employer? 

DarDys

More like “screw you,” I’ve been laid off 4 times in my career, all by actions directly attributable to Democrat administrations, despite education and hard work, so I didn't get mine, now it’s your turn to experience what the private sector has.

I’m a little skeptical about the “directly attributable to democrat administration” part, let’s just say that part is accurate.

Why should anybody wish suffering or hardship on others, just because they had to endure it? Is that in the Bible or something? Is that how we should govern the country? Just take turns screwing over groups of fellow citizens?