2024/12/05 13:25:50
genieman77
Porktown
But yet, yourself and others talk that there is a decisive majority of voter support of Trump. 



 
won't speak for others, Pork 
However it certainly was a decisive victory.
The media influencers trying to frame it otherwise is typical partisan baloney.
 
Now let me add some clarity to your assumptions of what "I" think and how "I" see it
 
it was as much a rejection of dem policy and direction  as it was for AN "America first"  policy and stated agenda goals .
it was a combo of both.
and that's what allowed non Trumplicons like to me to vote for the Machiavellian DikSwinger 
 
reality is....to suggest it wasn't a "decisive victory" is to be in denial of .
BUTT, if it helps those with diaper rash  feel bedder, believe what youinz want 
 
..KTF
 
 
 
2024/12/05 14:13:01
ICE NUT
Libby's what's that old saying.ELECTIONS have CONSECQUENCES You just going to have to live with it or do like the celebrities do and leave!The people of America have spoken,ya lost the house the senate and the executive branch and if the democrats don't change they will probably lose in 2028 also.
2024/12/05 14:21:11
Porktown
JerryS
Trump keeps on setting records.  He is the only two-term president to never get over 50 percent of the vote. 

Maybe if he did, then "majority of the people" comments would hold some water.  Until then, it is just another "TDS", "critical thinker", "hydroxychloroquine" or whatever the term of the month to repeat at nauseum by the cult.  Others use some of the terms, but mostly thrown around by the cult propaganda machine and spit out by the cult as planned.
 
One day, a few will wake up and think.  Maybe, just maybe, someone that is an expert in their field that spent years of training, education and real world experience, might know a certain subject more than a businessman of a completely different discipline, tv personality, or a random internet search quoting sources with absolutely no qualifications in the subject.  Obviously, in medicine and science, it doesn't seem to matter at all to some.
 
That said, a career politician is also not qualified to be an expert, but often is somehow seen as one by both parties.  So, I definitely understand that argument.  But shouldn't justify considering someone that is not an expert, as an expert.
2024/12/05 14:58:22
MyWar
genieman77
Porktown
But yet, yourself and others talk that there is a decisive majority of voter support of Trump. 



 
won't speak for others, Pork 
However it certainly was a decisive victory.
 


I mean… it’s not debatable whether Trump won. It’s not like 2016 where he lost the popular vote. But “decisive” is a stretch. And not just for him, but for the Republican Party as a whole.

Trump did not crack 50%. He won a plurality, not a majority. The difference between his vote share and Harris is gonna be around 1.5%. Hillary Clinton actually had a greater margin over Trump in the popular vote in 2016 which was 2.1%.

Republicans actually lost house seats. They will have a 220-215 majority, two seats fewer than the 2022 midterms. This is the slimmest Republican house majority since (I think) the 65th congress of 1917-19.

And republicans did pick up 4 senate seats but that was mainly due to an EXTREMELY favorable senate map - 3 of those senate seats were in solid red states. PA was the only truly competitive senate race that a Republican won (and just barely).

Democrats defended senate seats in several swing states that trump won- AZ, WI and NV.

Republicans also lost gubernatorial elections in both North Carolina and Arizona.

This wasn’t a particularly high turnout election either. Turnout was lower than 2020.

So what is so “decisive” about any of that? Electoral college math? We know that’s somewhat arbitrary. Anything else?

This was actually an extremely close election, just like every other election has been for the last, I dunno, 16 years?
2024/12/05 15:18:55
ICE NUT
Sure was MyWar BUT we WON and the winning keeps happeningLMAO
2024/12/05 15:32:18
Mitchell
crappiefisher
 Yeah, Biden is happy Mexico has cracked down on the migrants this year.
 
 
  • The monthly number of encounters with citizens of Guatemala decreased 81% between December 2023 and August 2024, from 34,693 to 6,420.
  • Encounters with citizens of Honduras fell 76%, from 18,993 to 4,465.
  • Encounters with citizens of El Salvador fell 64%, from 5,818 to 2,076.
  • Encounters with citizens of Mexico fell 52%, from 56,240 to 26,824.


  • Wow! That's great. 'Course, you make no mention of September, October, and November, when they started pouring across when it started to look like Trump could win the Presidency. Even now, there are caravans trying to get in before Trump takes command in January.
  • If we use your numbers, we only have to worry about the nearly 40,000 who got in in that 3 month period.
  • I look for a lot of political/monetary murders in Mexico in the future. The Cartels aren't gonna give up their cash cows, so politicians, police, and maybe even the military if used to stop illegal immigration may find themselves on the wrong side of a gun when they cross the Cartels. It's been happening for years throughout Central America. 
  • 2024/12/05 16:10:57
    crappiefisher
     Maybe read some opinions from other forums on the subject. Gets bored on here with only a handful or so in here repeating, repeating and repeating the same views over and over. nhttps://www.reddit.com/r/economy/comments/1fc2w7v/us_to_experience_net_influx_of_33_million_people/
     
     Maybe listen to some Christmas songs in the meantime. Good for the soul!!
     
     
     
     
    2024/12/05 16:55:28
    MyWar
    ICE NUT
    Sure was MyWar BUT we WON and the winning keeps happeningLMAO


    Oh ICE NIT I know he won. And I am one of those crazy liberals that wants Trump to do every single crazy thing he promised he would do. So that while we are living in a raging, four-year dumpster fire, all the MAGA True Believers like you will have to pretend how much you love burning alive.

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