r3g3
Just because  some people on the lower end of the work scale are dark and speak another language doesnt mean they are here illegally, they came and now work hard and are assimilating just like the ancestors of so many of us.

I thought you were MAGA. Could have been here 5 generations, still illegals.

JerryS

dano
 
 
 Good points, Jerry. If you spend time in the southwest, it seems like every restaurant, grocery store and other service related industries have a high percentage immigrants in their workforce. These immigrants are also consumers so removing them would also remove money flow from the economy. Unless of course you can replace all those immigrants with American workers who would probably require higher wages. So yea, inflationary.
 

Not just the southwest.  Anywhere I travel, I notice all the hotels use immigrants for the housekeeping staff.  When visiting larger cities I see construction crews staffed primarily with immigrant workers.
 
Studies show undocumented workers pay almost $100B in taxes every year, including Social Security and Medicare even though they are not eligible for these benefits.  They also pay higher income tax rates than US citizens since they are not eligible for most of the tax credits.
 
I admit the southern border has gotten out of control, and needs addressed, but mass deportation of hard working, law abiding undocumented immigrants is counter-productive.  Trump has convinced his followers that the undocumented are the reason for all our society ills, specifically their own lack of success.  

What part of illegal don't you guys understand also there not law abiding folks if they.Correct me if im wrong There here as criminals right lOur crops and hotels and landscapers have been here for years they have green cards and have been doing that work for lazy americans for decades.

Well Trump is expected to announce Stephen miller as deputy chief of staff. And Tom Homan is gonna be his border czar. I think between the two of them we can 100% definitely expect caring, humane, compassionate treatment of all immigrant vermin. We can agree on that, right?

Also just because Tom Homan was one of the authors of 2025, trump has still never heard of project 2025.

And even if the people that wrote project 2025 all end up in trumps cabinet, Trump still doesn’t know anything about it and the people that literally said “here is what we are gonna do once we are in power” won’t actually do those things once they are in power, right?

Hey Pork
Some of my ancestors were here before Columbus lol
Most others came later.
The neighborhood I live in looks like the league of nations and everyone gets along just fine.
Actually the whole area is part of what used to be our family farm.
Most here in Ct are in constant contact with people from first  and second generation  Americans some still learning the language, heck back in HS some friends had to interpret for their parents who were still learning English.
I held elected office 3 times in a Ct city as a DEMOCRAT--even voted for Obama his first time running.
Was on the nominating committee for a sitting Dem Congressman and very good friends with a Cabinet members first generation American family.
Then the big left lurch happened and I got the hell OUT and am a happily registered independent.
MAGA--YES as are so many in my present Ct red town.
Some of us were middle of the road old fashioned Dems- but  as Reagan said  "I didnt leave the party-it left me".
Heck if JFK were running today I believe this new far left lib Dem party would call him a conservative.
Wayyyy past time for a big reset.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
hey

JerryS
 
 
Off-shore labor is the bread-and-butter of our capitalist country.  Trump and all his lobbyists wanting to bring the manufacturing back to the US is not based on reality.

 
It's interesting to me how the dem faithful  have become water boys for big corp capitalists  now.
Once in favor of tariffs and domestic worker protectionism, now it's all about corp profits???
sell out to China and India in the intere$t of higher corp profits...yeah, that's the ticket  
 
Bernie is right, the dem party is no longer for the working man.
 
..L.T.A.
 
 
 
 
 
 

Remember -
Ron Reagan was a California Democrat and
Donald Trump was a New York City Democrat.
The parties have both changed.
Heck -and I was a Blue Ct Democrat--but certainly not in the class of the above two - lol

Finally a much needed nice long soaking rain. 
Most of the people I know think the S.S. no tax is just so great.  They have no clue when they say instant tax break and they only receive 2 grand a month or less & not reporting extra income ($25,000 year). They are so uninformed on what b.s. the candidates preach over and over they are going to do. How many billions did the Govt. steal in the past from the program? The Republicans wanted to raise the age to 70 but was shut down by the Dems. No way the no tax on S.S. will get off the floor even when it benefits the middle class and wealthy. Just another false promise. That wall was surely the answer. Even if deport it won't matter if the boarder is not secure first. Deporting all illegals will make inflation go way higher than the tariffs. Deport all & tariffs, tariffs and more tariffs like he has been campaigning on = GOOD LUCK you will need it.   
https://www.statesman.com...trump-did/72120774007/
    

r3g3
Remember -
Ron Reagan was a California Democrat and
Donald Trump was a New York City Democrat.
The parties have both changed.
Heck -and I was a Blue Ct Democrat--but certainly not in the class of the above two - lol

Reagan gave 3 million illegal immigrants legal status for $185.  Trump wants them all thrown out of the country.  

In Reagans time thats all there were outstanding and all had gone through the legit entry process.
In Trumps time that's just about how many they know of that got in just last year, plus gotaways and more who just walked in w/o being stopped.
Huge difference.
Kinda think you already knew that though. Nice try.

The way Trump talks in is general terms, with talking heads interpreting everything after the fact, who knows what much of this will look like in legislation format. From the spin prior to the election, some said deporting any violent criminal, some said all here illegally. Unless they know they are a flight risk to return, I have no issue with the violent criminals being deported. I find it hard to believe this wasn’t happening. If we know it is safer to keep here (knowing that they will likely return), then I’m fine with exceptions to keep them here incarcerated. Yes, paying for them stinks, but the risk of them returning if violent and actively involved in something organized that the chances of returning are high.

Until we see what any of the legislation looks like, it is just speculation. Each side presenting what their media sources are providing.

With things like untaxed overtime and untaxed tips, do companies push more into salary positions if it is beneficial to them? Do salaried employees walk off the jobs to take on hourly positions? What will the definition of tip be? Can an employer “tip” their employee? Will more businesses charge a certain rate and “expect” tips in their contracts? Will salaried employees that work overtime be able to count part of their salary as untaxed overtime?

It will be interesting to see how so many of these vague “policies” are put into legislation. I can be convinced just about all of the policies sound good if turned into legislation in favorable ways…